GU 43: Nature Fauna Advanced Mechanic

I'll be on test sometime tomorrow to test. I just wanted to know what you meant.

This is my Wolf run with Roar.

PREVIOUS HUMAN RUN - 9:32

WOLF WITH ROAR - 9:24


One difference to note is that I had Soda Limes in this run where my previous had Turbos. I don't think that played a big role in the runs. It seems like Wolf + Roar really bridges the gap. I know I was a little sloppy too. I'd be curious what others could do with it. Especially in a raid where you could really get some continuous uninterupted damage going.

Again, sorry for any video choppiness from my laptop.

Harvest sharing its pheromone stack with Bloom would be fine with me. Probaly the best compromise we can agree on
However, I'm still pondering whether promoting the usage of SG and Harvest parallel to each other isn't a little too much crowd control for a heal... On the other hand SG only juggles at close range..

This Carnage>Roar thing indeed does look promising. Glad to see the progress on the Fauna tree so far.

Since it's located in the Fauna tree, too... Is it probable we're gonna see some new visuals for the Swarm Shield? From all the shields in the game, this is by far the least visible. You have to look really close to see if it's still up on you or the group members you're shielding

In order for Pheromone stacking loadout with Harvest to stand any chance in end game content, Bloom might need to be changed to heal faster "allies with 35% health or less" similar to Sorcery's Invocation of Renewal.

If that happens Harvest and Savage Growth overwriting will be best option. Without additional changes Bloom will remain least useful pheromone ability.

Pheromone stacking loadout will rely a lot on any additional healing effects of any abilities included.
Cross Poli will be a must have.

Imo, Savage Growth will always be better than Harvest for Burst healing loadout that rely mostly on Blossom because of how power hungry things can be. Savage Growth has no extra healing effect than just releasing Pheromones (all u need with Blossom) but also costs less mana than Harvest.

Alright... Does anyone disagree with Harvest using the Bloom stack? If it seems like there's a consensus for using the Bloom stack after a day or so, I'll change it to that.

I don't really understand why Harvest now shares Stacks with Savage Growth? Did nobody see that if Harvest would share with Cross Polination would be a nice HoT addition for healers that aren't needed to heal wave close ranged players? Screw clipping purposes

Also the DPS moth would approve Savage Growth and Harvest not sharing the same HoT.

After thinking it through, I like it using the Bloom stack. That would let me get the most pheromone stacks out of a Harvest cast. That's because I'm not likely to just fling Bloom out there as frequently as Savage Growth or Metabolism. Like Cross Poll, it's use is situational. Between Cross Poll or Bloom, I tend to get more frequent organic use out of Cross Poll than Bloom. I like the idea of organically getting three stacks out there between Savage Growth, Metabolism, and Cross Poll, and then letting Harvest fill in the fourth stack in place of Bloom.

You have my vote for the Bloom stack.

Both harvest and bloom sharing the same stack would be the best way to go imo.

I agree that Harvest sharing the same stack as Bloom is better than sharing the stack with Cross Pollination.

I had forgotten that at one point we got some improvements to our delivery mechanism sorting and filtering so that we can actually have delivery mechanisms hit those who are full Health/Power. So I had someone update all the heals but they apparently missed those two abilities. Then I forgot we had that tech and lied about it not affecting you unless you needed healing.

So the TL;DR is yes, the larger tick of power return should hit you regardless if you're full or not. Thanks for letting us know!

I'm with the others it seems like the bloom stack is the best way!

Using the Insectoid Form there seems to be a Bug (pun intended) with the Poisen Spores.

In human form apply the Vina Lash and Briar DoT's, switch to Insectoid and apply Savage Growth DoT and refresh all of them with Harvest. After a while one of the 3 disappeares and after some testing it seems like the Savage growth doesn't want to be refreshed in Insectoid.

You have my vote. Definitely best compromise imo.

Why must the change force you to use wolf? As im a advent supporter of this change because ive been stating this for I mean forever. Forcing us to use wolf just for those 2 to be instant and constant dots is pretty ridiculous. Please allow this to be done outside of the wolf for Weapon Mastery purposes. Roar has no function it needs one. Serpents call is extremely weak. The wolf itself will not be used even with this change. However I love that you actually took into consideration what I said. It feels like this took 2 steps forward and 2 steps back. Also Roar should not work with dots it would be to big of a advantage for Nature. There's no reason that roar as a instant dot should work with poisons. That's way to much DoT as I have stated above in my previous comments. Please make this a human form change.

Id rather cross polli honestly. I rarely see people using that.

I would like it to share its stack with bloom

So when is it going to be asked if the power refund will work in human form. It's unfair to those who don't want to use the wolf or bug. It would be more fair to allow these changes to work for both forms not just one.

I am against using the Bloom stack.
Please leave it with the Metabolism stack or use the Cross Pollination stack.
If you put it on the Bloom stack you take away one of the long range 16 target pheromone stacks we have which is what I am against.

But harvest will give you a 3rd ranged stack. If it canceled with metabo or sg then it's kinda useless. Bloom imo is a very bad heal,when people need a heal they need it right then not 3 seconds later from bloom. I didn't even know people actually used bloom cause it's terrible lol