Gadgets Powerset Buff/Update needed

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by HEALB4, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. HEALB4 Level 30

    Gadgets "Melee Might AoE Dps side" is fine, but people will for sure agree that Range Gadgets Might AoE just sucks. The only powers you can really use are Gauss Grenades and P Dart. Fear Gas or Cryo-Foam are just not ticking long enough to be worth putting into your Loadout.

    After a lot of Game Updates some powers from the Gadgets Powerset have just turned into kind of useless stuff.

    Who is using "Cryo-Field" , "Neural Neutralizer" , "Vortex Cannon" or "Photon Blast" nowadays as a might dps? Pretty much nobody. Neural Neutralizer is literally useless for any loadout because of the Damage compared to the Cooldown time. "Vortex Cannon" would be nice if it got a good Range and would hit more consistent. "Photon Blast" is not worth to put into your loadout either because Taser Pull is hitting harder anyways.

    Gadgets really needs some NEW or REVAMPED powers to make Gadgets a good Range AoE powerset again.

    -> To the Devs: Please consider a "Modification" or "Revamp" of certain powers.
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  2. NoNameFound EU New Player

    Totally agreed with HEALB4. Now he's talking about Gadget powerset, but i think some other powers might be adjusted/revamped, because certain skills are totally useless for both roles.

    I think we must preoritize this changes on various powersets, instead of asking for new powersets.
    Good thread HEALB4, thumbs up for you bro.
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  3. Reverse Sentry Active Player

    Yup, 100% sharing the same opinion.
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  4. Zneeak Devoted Player

    Considering that Gadgets have been one of the top powersets both for Might and Prec (atleast it was before the adjustments to the various WM-combos, not sure if Gadgets's position have changed on that regard since this Update) there can't be a buff without adjusting something else, or you're just begging to be further up top than previously.

    Since you are aware of its strong suit of AoE Melee, would you be fine with a down-adjustments to that, to reflect a buff on the Ranged side?
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  5. loupblanc Dedicated Player


    Absolutely not. Gadgets is easily the current No 1 Controller powerset.

    For DPS, Gadgets is easily top 2 in both Might and Precision, Melee or Single Target.

    Why in the world should Gadgets get another buff when other powersets are performing below par and need a slight bump to push them up to average?

    You players must be very very new.
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  6. Burning_Baron Loyal Player

    Buff is the wrong word to use. What they really want is for powers to not be useless so that one style of play doesn't ultimately rely only on two moves.
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  7. Berza Committed Player

    Gadgets is almost OP in any situation. Sorcery is probably the absolutly worst power in game, maybe along with Mental. Why would the comunity want Gadgets being unnecessary buffed when there are some other powers that in fact do not perform as real DPSs?
  8. HEALB4 Level 30

    Ehm. Nope. I was mainly talking about the Range Might AoE Dps side and not about the whole powerset.
  9. HEALB4 Level 30

    1st off all: I was not talking about the Controller Side. 2nd : I was not talking about Melee or Single Target . 3rd I was talking about Certain Powers.
  10. HEALB4 Level 30

    There is not a single Loadout Video for Range gadgets Might AoE on youtube. Everytime people want to show a "Range" loadout they show a Medium-Ranged Loadout. And guess why.
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  11. Zneeak Devoted Player

    If it's the wrong word to use, say that to the OP who used said word.

    Like I was saying, if one wants an already top-performing power to become stronger in its supposedly lacking side (the ranged side), something else in the powerset will need adjustments to account for it (as admitted by the OP, the strong suit being its AoE melee-side).

    One simply can't have the cake and eat it too.
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  12. Berza Committed Player

    Well I was talking about Melee AoE, Melee St, range AoE and ranged St when I mentioned Sorcery. And sorry for saying it this way, but not only I know Gadgets players that can beat pretty good Nature players in range, but also I had run a SGe with you, and you ended on my ignore list because of your behavior.
  13. Burning_Baron Loyal Player

    I wasn't really targeting you specifically but speaking in general.

    This would be an across the board change though. Every power set has a lot of useless moves. Pretty much all of what used to be the Space tree in Quantum is irrelevant in favor a time bomb. A lot of the original power sets have some pretty useless powers in the grand scheme. What should happen is a pass to make more powers more useful to create more dynamic loadouts. I'd love to be able to use flashpoint and Backdraft as legit dps options for fire again. It is just hard with the way power damage vs cost works and how that cost is role agnostic.
  14. HEALB4 Level 30

    Just no comment.Typical noname player that gives feedback and probably didnt even experience Gameplay before the Clipping Nerf.
  15. Zneeak Devoted Player

    You're quoting the wrong person in all of this, though. The OP was not about an across the board-change, he wants a Powerset that is already among the Top-list of performers to perform even better, me and others are telling him he can't have the cake and eat it too.

    There are powersets in more dire need of adjustments and buffs, as already mentioned in this thread by other users in response to the OP.
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  16. Heliotropix Well-Known Player

    i don't think gadgets was ever intended to be a ranged power...they give you a few ranged abilities, that doesn't make you a ranged character. they have stealth abilities, and proximity mines....i wouldn't even consider playing gadgets as ranged dps....
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  17. Siramez Well-Known Player

    All of you will need a reading session every day.
    what the OP is saying is that CERTAIN ABILITIES for gadgets IS NOT GOOD AND NOT VIABLE, making ranged loadouts USELESS AND WEAKER THAN THE MELEE DPS.

    Sigh, sorry about the caps, i just can't deal with these people that cannot read properly to what the OP is trying to say.
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  18. Siramez Well-Known Player

    so does that mean gadgets is useless in elite raids and it forces the gadgets player to switch to a ranged power like electric?
  19. Burning_Baron Loyal Player

    You and others are the ones who used the word buff in reference to the OP's opening statement which I was responding to though. I quoted you because you were the last person to speak before i replied. The OP specifically said modification to the powers. I don't also really see him talking specifically about damage but more along the lines of options within that play style. Making range "good" does not necessarily mean making it the best at range merely more viable.

    My comments were specifically meant to echo the sentiment that there are other powers in need of changes as well and that if something like this were to happen to gadgets, every power with under performing or underutilized abilities should get a pass as well. Even if there was a buff it doesn't mean that melee has to be nerfed. That's lazy problem solving and I would assume if the devs go for a flat numbers increase they would test whether or not ranged gadgets dps is over performing they think it should be capable of. For all we know it is right where they want it to be or it could actually be higher. Yes generally if a power is good at one thing it should be worse at another but that does't mean the other play style needs to remain Garbage(not saying that's what gadgets is but in general) and can't perform respectably and more importantly have some fun attached to it. Balance is not a vacuum where one area of a power is top means its okay for the other areas to suffer.
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  20. Berza Committed Player

    No name player? My toons names are on my signature. But even if you can't look at them, Berza and La Choni. Pitufines league (not trying to be presuntuose but a quick search on census will show you a few things about us). Also, not sure what you mean with Clipping Nerf, but I started playing DCUO when it was released as free to play. And finally it's not me who is hiding under some kind of misspelled in game name that's not the same as in forum name. Because there is no toon in census with a name like the one you use here. Or maybe you got enough problems with people in game so you change your name? Because when I ran that SGe with you, you where blaming on DPSs for low damage, but the ones who where avoiding being killed by meteors and adds, not the ones meleeing Tala, nor the tank who wasn't even trying to aggro adds. And those people were refusing follow advice from others, so I said sorry this is undoable this way and left (after a good half hour of wipes) just to get you insulting me on tells, which was the reason I placed you on ignore.
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