Focused discussion on Marks Of Victory change

From Spytle

TLDR: Marks of Fury and Marks of Triump gets consolidated to Marks of Victory

I'm coming from an end-game player perspective.

So my take away from this is as we get up in CR the less content becomes "relevant to us".
At 115 cr, you will get no marks from Necro, Artifacts, Lockdown as I assume these are considered Tier 6A at 100cr requirement. Not to mention all the content before that, there's no more marks. That's a pretty big chunk that becomes pretty much "irrelevant" to us.

Along with the 100 Marks Of Victory CAP, with the costs of gear the same, with Mainframe boosts requiring Marks of Victory, catalysts, and utility slot unlocks all requiring marks of victory AND restricting the content where we can earn Marks to keep up with all of these. I see this as a problem.

What do you guys think.

*I know that there's a discussion on ALL the info dropped on us, but I think that this Marks change is such a big deal that it needs its own thread.

I really wish they would up the limit to 200 and maybe fix it to were you just get one mark per boss fight out of the lower content.

I do think the cap is a little low, maybe if the vendor gear is really cheap or we will not have a need to buy vendor gear at all it might offset the all in one mark but i bought it. What concerns me the most is the premium players cost of playing just tripled, basically they are saying get legendary or go away.

Well this seems like a load of horse poo...

I think its a bit of a trade off.

Starting off a tier we get a lot less content relevant to us, with this new way we'll always have a higher amount of content relevant to start with, but won't have the high end of content like we have now with T6.

As for the Mainframe and Utility costs, its 55 Marks for EVERYTHING over a 2 month span. I don't think that sounds overly bad.

Especially with all these stuff that we have to pay for with 1 mark, even getting 200 is not gonna be enough.

I was wondering why the response was so positive.
the tiers as they are, are spotty when it comes to t4 pretty much being exclusively alerts and raids.
but even worse now that sort of player has to simply keep resetting that content to get enough marks as opposed to it all adding up from tier 3.

More content good.

That content being relevant for less time
BAD

Can you clarify more on the trade off? I don't understand.
As I see it, all this does is restrict the content we can run to keep up with mainframe boosts, completing old gears, and catalysts.

I totally agree...there are parts of it that I like, but the content being only relevant to your cr rating...I think is just dumb.

What next? "Insert your credit card to unlock this boss in next 15 minutes" in raids?

I gave a suggestion which I hope is looked at, I don't believe I should be restricted from getting marks from low content just for being high CR, marks are the one relevant thing this game has, remove those and what need do i have for that content, I already have the feats, and really no hurry in getting the styles, so I'll have no real need for the content anymore. I believe some number of marks should be given for low content.

HATE IT!

I like the method that had..prior content used MoT and the new content had its own mark. Not liking the one mark method.

What this is telling me, if you do not have some of the older sets, grind your **** off now to get MoT and buy as many of the T1-T4 sets you can or it will cost you a bigger longer grind later. Thank GOD I am done all vendor styles in this game. I just have a couple of alert and raid gear to acquire and I do not mind running them to get said gear.

Oh yeah, thats absolutely true.

But the prices have been lowered enough, and the time extended enough where that burden works out to be less.

When this starts, running an alert and duo will yield you a boost for 60 days. Catalysts are a bit trickier, but thats the tradeoff part. You get more content to run in the beginning to build marks for them. At least current Catalysts you will, I don't know how they'll do old Catalysts.

As for old gear, I'm kind of in agreement there, there needs to be something making it easier to get old tier gear styles as you get higher.

In my opinion, the Symbols system was great.
1 mark for each tier, and 1 mark for each DLC as so we don't skip the content of the DLC.
I really do not see any positive from this Marks of Victory change.

Sadly while new content is exciting, the marks and cr range are a no no.

What will initial Mainframe unlocks and boosts (recurring unlocks) cost?
Unlocks for the Orbital Strike, Supply Drop, and Tactical Mods all cost 25 Marks of Victory. Unlocks for Sidekicks cost 5 and 20 Marks of Victory. Uplocks for Backup/Henchmen cost 10 and 25 Marks of Victory. The new boosts cost 7 Marks of Victory.

So lets say I just want TAC mods, Orbital, and Supply drop
do I fork out 75? or just 25? per 2 months.

Unlocks are the first 2 levels, the perma ones that are crap lol. You don't need to buy those.

Theres only 1 boost for each category now, so buying the Boost for Tac Mods would give you Boosts 1 2 and 3 all in one go. It would cost you 21 Marks for 60 days.

This is my biggest worry. The labeling any content as "irrelevant" to anyone. All content for which you are => the required CR should offer some sort of Mark reward.
I want to state, however, that I can understand and see where the Dev Team is coming from and going to with this idea. Just would like them to know I'm not 100% on board with this one piece of the change. The rest of it I think will be good additions.

Thanks!
That is a little better, the current system is still better as it's much faster to gain Marks of Triumph than Fury.

Still though, restricting content even in the same tier, as evidenced by 6A and 6B, I assume there's gonna be 7A and 7B too, earning marks in general won't be as fast as right now. Once you are in B, you can't earn marks from A anymore

Everything can still be earned but a lot slower.

The truth is if you run your toon up now you are screwed...if you wait, you will be more or less encourage to get the gear as you level up your toon, which slow progression down......

I just hate it, plain and simple..

You know the new mark system will extend lower tier content que times and make some older raids really hard, to the point no will play them other than for feats or styles... I'm looking at your DOX....