Fire overriting Fire

Discussion in 'War Room (Powers, Artifacts, & Builds)' started by Scorpion, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Scorpion Well-Known Player

    Since I rarely ever run raids with another fire dps never noticed before, but its been brought to my attention so I tested to make sure. Inferno, Spontanous Combustion, and Overheat overrite each other when cast by different fire users. Whether its dps or tank doesn't matter. As it stands I can't do any raids with fire dps or tank because my dps will get reduced alot. Haven't tested every fire power so see what else may have this problem I just tested using my current loadout. Hopefully this issue can get looked at if not this is a major handicap for fire users.
  2. Toxiic Committed Player

    I think there is a similar problem with every power. Like 2 electric healers cant both use galvanize and 2 sorcery healer/dps cant use CoD. With electric, both power just override eacother and they just waste power for no heal but with sorcery, the last person to use CoD gets to keep theirs.
  3. Drift Hazard Dedicated Player

    This is why I make use of at least some Ignition powers, which generally makes use of burning instead of adding another layer of unstackable DoTs. Enflame is also a good choice. I don't think it stacks as well, but at least it's limited by range, so you could be fighting a different group of adds.
  4. 13igtyme Devoted Player

    Every dot from every powerset is like that.
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  5. Scorpion Well-Known Player

    The burns these powers do are still active however that power itself stops, so they still dot. While it is annoying that another fire dps can overrite me its not fair that a tank can. From my experience with dps for other powersets dots dont cancel or overrite only the power that dots does.
  6. 13igtyme Devoted Player

    Every dot cancels for other powersets, not just fire.
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  7. AIpha New Player

    Crushing PI dots don't and Grasping Hand I guess doesn't either lol. But those could be exploits.
  8. Cream Corn New Player

    Healing Circles Stack. It's Awesome.
  9. Scorpion Well-Known Player

    Unless you consider the burning effect not to be a dot, cause the burns do not cancel they stay active. So even with other fires in the party I can stack multiple burns.
  10. Soulburn32 Loyal Player

    I think your confusing DoT with a PI

    If you cast a power that causes normal burning, you will have applied both a pi and a DoT

    then someone else casts another power that causes normal burning, your DoT has now been overwritten by theirs and the PI has been refreshed for X amount of seconds (so you are no longer seeing a DoT effect on the target but they are)

    the pi is still there for anyone to use regarless
  11. Drift Hazard Dedicated Player

    Actually, you can only stack DoTs that are considered burning, so long as they come from a different source (i.e. Inferno, Enflame), but regular burning (the smallest ticks) does not stack with itself, regardless of powerset. Regular burning includes, but is not limited to:
    • Immolation
    • Flashpoint PI
    • Spontaneous Combustion
    • Flame Cascade
    • Earthquake (including Aftershocks)
    • Pyrokinesis
    • Phantom Flames
    • Fear Gas PI
    • Cryo-foam PI
    • Cryo-field PI
    • Napalm Grenade
  12. Scorpion Well-Known Player

    I do understand that burning is a P.I. but it does do damage over time. Also they stack with different burning P.I.. Like how enflame, inferno, flashpoint, and spontanous combustion all inflict burning P.I. and they stack each doing damage over time.
  13. Zeikial Committed Player

    no they dont
  14. Soulburn32 Loyal Player

    Inferno and enflame are uniquely coded to be unique to allow fire to have more DoTs.

    Spont inflicts normal burning + Extra Burst damage, the big numbers are not actually dots

    Flashpoint is also normal burning level
  15. iiCoNx Active Player

    if u a fire dps worried bout ticks & stacking ticks sorry your a bad fire dps like OMG I lost 30k over a raid in ticks lmao keep the pi going idgaf you can have the ticks its 1 less thing 4 me 2 worry about
  16. iiCoNx Active Player

    not the reason y but I run spontaneous I still get my burst damage after the target take whatever damage 2 explode & after tht override the ticks idc the pi up & im mass detN or fireburst
  17. iiCoNx Active Player

    I never brag I never number chase but every1 on ps3 villains know & give me props 4 being the best fire dps on the game its all about the situation 4 wat we use I have situational rotations don't worry bout ticks long as pi up mass det groups 35% at 35% & fireburst which they said was nerfed right nah I prefer it the way it is, we now have a single target move until 35% is ready you catch a fire dps fireburstn a big group they trash
  18. AIpha New Player

    For the simple fact that you said you are the beat villian fire dps I know you are not. The best dps is the quite one that didn't brag about beating the other two . The best dps is the one that doesn't come on the forums saying other people told them they are the best. The best dps is the quite humble dps that joins a raid does his job and drifts into the void never to be seen again.
  19. Fenix New Player

    Simple answer to this...if I set you on fire, someone else cant set you "more" on fire since you are already on fire. *BOOM MIND BLOWN*

    P.S. Actually I didnt read any of this thread cause I assume its some bad fire dps crying about how another bad fire dps cost him numbers on the scoreboard.
  20. 13igtyme Devoted Player

    P.i. =/= dots.