Dual-wield the best weapon for PVP/PVE

Discussion in 'War Room (Powers, Artifacts, & Builds)' started by niehlsbohr, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. niehlsbohr Active Player

    Everyone that knows how to PVP pretty much using Dual-wield,
    I'm switching to this weapon myself recently and its great! The difference in damage and clipping can go up to 100k difference! I don't understand why the game has so many weapons availabe when clearly dual-wield is the best weapon. Yeah, not really skills but who cares a win is a win, right.

    why not just delete all the weapons and let everyone use dual-wield!
    Hand-blasters, two-handed, shield, brawling, spear, what a joke, just delete all of these worthess weapons.

    Note: one handed is also very good but still not the best.
  2. Red Skorpion Dedicated Player

    OMG ... do u hear the MOB coming
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  3. Saami Loyal Player

    Yes, Its not really a secret.
  4. Dylan Top5 New Player

    Duel wield melee has a splitting issue, it's only good for single target fyi.

    I like HB for PVE and everyone knows that Rifle is the undisputed op weapon for pvp
  5. Gale Reaper Dedicated Player

    OOOhhh I don't use this, let's just remove it from the game.
    When you lose to no skills like fire tanks or SirChainsawChops, you'll care.
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  6. L T Guest

    Is this a veiled plea for more balanced weapons?
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  7. MoreAwesomeMechanic New Player

    You'd think after 100 threads about it we'd all just be contempt that it ain't gonna happen.
  8. Derio 15000 Post Club

    DW is the most unbalanced weapon in the game and has been the fotm multiple times
  9. Ink Eyes New Player

  10. Inpent New Player


    I do way more damage with handblaster then people with dual wield
  11. Sore Steadfast Player

    Here's some scenarios where different weapons may be your best option in different scenarios. I think things could be more balanced than they are but not as bad as the OP would have you think.

    Dual Wield
    DW Explosive Shot is the only thing out of line. It's only because there is a little clipping window with WM combos. If you're not clipping, it is right in a similar range as HB and 2H.

    Two-Handed
    For example in Nature, the strongest non-Wolf loadout is Savage Growth, Vine Lash, Briar, Swarm, Harvest, and Carnage. To make the most out of that in a rotation, there's nothing to clip your WM combo with. You need to let it ride. That means 2H is the best weapon for that rotation because it does the most unclipped ranged damage.

    Hand Blasters
    If you're WM crit-excluded, you may also want to consider HB Solar Flame. It has the better damage per second than any of the WM combos. The challenge is that it's clippable in such a short amount of time that no single power can be used to clip it because the cooldown is too short. But if you have two powers to burst with, it's a great option. Actually thinking about it now, I might want to test it again where I alternate between HB Solar Flame and HB Explosive Shot Mastery. That might be doable.

    One-Handed
    If you're doing solo and duo content, 1H is a great weapon. Its 1H Pulse Beam Mastery is great single target damage while being conservative on power. When range is needed, 1H Solar Flame Mastery can at least get some decent damage out (not the best). When you need to splash damage, Dual Flurry Mastery is pretty nice.

    Brawling
    If you're a support role, there's nothing better than using Brawling Shuriken Storm Mastery to build up your combo bar for power and supercharge regen. It's absolutely amazing.
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  12. spack2k Steadfast Player

    u probably forgot to add : PVE ,unless u really love to range alot in PVP.
  13. Sore Steadfast Player


    I did mean for that to be a PvE analysis. I haven't PvP'd in a long time so I mostly avoid discussing that unless we're talking some basic concepts.
  14. AtrocitusOmega Committed Player

    I use DW for pve but never in pvp. I like one handed and MA in pvp.
  15. L T Guest

    For tanking I like staff. Good control effects. Very short WM combos so you can get back to block if needed. It's longer moves are clipable.

    I use shield whenever I play wonder woman in legends. That's about the best thing I can say for the weapon.
  16. DCVillain New Player



    same here but for me its PvE wise though :p

    I've out DPS'd so many ppl with 97 HB > explosive shot then those who use DW > explosive shot also 97
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  17. Biggdaddycane Dedicated Player

    Longer the combo, stronger the last WM hit.

    Why some people really like shield IIRC.

    I like Brawling ALOT. DW is ok. I just like good AOE options for Close & Range.

    I can toss out two Range WM combos in the time that it takes others to do one. Hell mayble even 3 compared to some. The counter window is short.

    Do to how long the close range WM is that final Two Handed swing does nasty damage. Not to mention before it you do the original haymaker which does great frontal AOE damage leading into the final WM AOE swing.

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    Bow Weapon Mastery is my choice for PVP..

    Explosive Shot - Full Auto sprays crowds in heavy brawls

    Smoke Bomb Mastery is Fast and a AOE stun. Great when being surrounded as a healer.

    Spinning Punch Mastery does good AOE damage.

    My 2 cents.
  18. Remander Steadfast Player

    Like Sore said, the only DW attack that's really unbalanced is the ranged hold-hold. Look at shiny mackerel's thread (link in my sig). For some bizarre reason, it actually was buffed in GU 41, lol!
  19. Derio 15000 Post Club

    DW should be fixed in GU44 or GU45 so all of the fotm chasers can buy new weapons.
  20. Echo Blue Committed Player

    Hello everyone,

    A lot of good info, thank you. I like Martial Arts with nature, I think the knee strike attack stuns faster than most other weapons, and because I don't use a Wolf-form very often, the similar range attacks make for a quick learning curve when I do use the Wolf-form.(might have to start using Wolf-form though, with the recent changes and after seeing some of your vids) and I like to WM into Serpent Call in place of Carnage just because I like the animation. Sometimes I like to clip smoke grenade into Serpent Call, it makes me feel like I'm Serpent Claw, now I just need Serpent Claw's hand as a gauntlet.