Dual Wield Charge Double Throw (Worse)..

Discussion in 'Testing Feedback' started by Helping Hand, Jan 13, 2014.

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  1. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    I don't think they should nerf this. nerf is never the answer. They should, however, buff every other weapon to equal this damage output. Im not sure while people keep wanting to do less damage lol. It's beneficial, leave it.
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  2. NexGenX New Player

    Exactly, since when was more damage bad for the dps community? Its like they dont want weapons to do damage at all so they can use powers indefinitely. I don't get it :/
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  3. Astral Lantern Well-Known Player

    Real great "balance' pass Devs...DW hits like a truck now (got a 11k crit the other day) and one hand focus blast can't get over 1k on crits?

    Real smooth job Devs......real smooth.

    Find better ways to make the game challenging other than nerfing weapons that have been that way from the start.....3yrs and you guys JUST discover staff and one hand??...really in touch with the community there.....just like the SC crystals in Robinson Park. :rolleyes:

    Sorry for what appears to be a hostile post.....but you guys really screwed the pooch on your "balance" pass.
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  4. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    I'm not sure what your point is here? you said you hit 11k crits with the dual wield, so use the dual wield lol. or just keep complaining to they nerf that too and you won't be using any weapon.
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  5. NexGenX New Player

    PREACH!
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  6. Astral Lantern Well-Known Player

    The "Point" is that the so called "balance" pass now allows DW to range hit for almost 10 times what one handed can currently do....so you tell me wheres the balance in that? .......I would prefer not to have to use DW (clunky)....but the devs seems to want all to use it with their "Balance" pass.
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  7. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    well, dont use i then. but dont complain when the guy next to you just spamming his dual weild is out dpsing you. This is exactly why 1h and staff got nerfed. because people who don't like using them were jealous of the damage they were doing. don't let them take dual wield away from us too.
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  8. NexGenX New Player

    Like Jeazy said you don't have to use it. It is still slow so that's kind of a handicap in itself. Don't be the guy who looks over at the other players and cry nerf because you don't want them having such high dmg output. Its distasteful. Instead attack these forums with buff requests. If DW goes, it'll be the dark ages all over lol. I don't particularly like seeing only 3 weapons used for dps, in fact I want them to be as viable as DW so that dps aren't so reliant on power alone. :)
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  9. Astral Lantern Well-Known Player

    You guys are a riot.....when in any of my posts was i asking for a nerf?....Get some reading comprehension skills both of you please....I commented on how "Unbalanced" the weapons are now after the awesome "Balance" pass.

    Not asking for a Nerf.....I'm asking for a "Real" balance pass.
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  10. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    Right a "Real" balance pass at this point would be a result of any of the three things.
    1. They buff every weapon to be able to do the "11k" crits that dual wield does,
    2. They nerf dual wield to not be able to break 1k crits ( like they did with the other charged weapons).
    3. or do a legitamate balance where they find a middle ground for all of the weapons (mind you, this would still be a DW nerf).

    so as 1 would be the best in my opinion it is EXTREMELY unlikely. especially seeing how they just went through the trouble of nerfing 1h and staff. it seems to me like if they were to do anything at all about this (which they probably won't) it would be 2. seeing how it would be the easiest and they have already done it to two of the weapons.

    So in conclusion, it seems to me like a "real" balance pass would result in the nerf of DW. so stop asking for it :)
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  11. Astral Lantern Well-Known Player

    #3 then.......could care less about a DW nerf......but when the Devs spend all that time on a "Balance" pass and basically do nothing but nerf 1 hand and Staff into the turf....yet buff DW to it's current level.......I'll say what needs to be said.
    I do understand where you are coming from......Devs only ever seem to nerf and not fix.....but there was no "balance" pass....the weapons are far from being on the same playing field.....and for the most part end game dps are forced to go DW or run the risk of not contributing as much to their teams....all i care about is contributing to my team/s....being forced to jump through the Devs hoops to do this is getting to be ridiculous.
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  12. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    so then, you would like them to nerf the weapon resulting in everyone who uses dual wield to do less damage, simply becuase you don't like the weapon? kind of selfish eh? so back to the previous comment i made :).

    If they buff other weapons. cool. and i would most likely switch to one of the others. but to have the DW do less damage is not going to solve anything. Just going to be less damage overall.
  13. Astral Lantern Well-Known Player

    I can see it's pointless to continue any conversation as you only really want to take shots at me for speaking about DW and the waste of a "Balance" pass we got....mainly because your afraid that DW will get nerfed. :rolleyes:

    I use DW because the devs have forced me to use it....or not help my team as much as i can.

    Bottom line is that with a "balance" pass weapons have NOT been balanced...certain weapons have been eliminated.....the numbers do not lie...weapons have been removed from being effectively usable in endgame content........stop acting like people have no right to question it and or complain about it.

    My posts are based on reality....all your doing is responding to them with fear of a nerf.
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  14. Jeazy Baby Dedicated Player

    If they were to nerf it, you would then do less damage, thus you would not be helping your team as much as you could have been if they didnt nerf it. so i don't see how a nerf would solve your problem mate. Everyone in the raid doing less damage just so you can be closer to the top of the scoreboard with a different weapon is in no way helping your team. In "reality" there is no way that a balance pass would result in the other weapons getting buffed to do what the DW can do now, and a "balance" would end in the nerfing of DW. You call it a fear of a nerf, I see it as im trying to help my team as much as I can by doing the most damage that I can.
  15. thelostczarnian New Player

    ok that i get...i dont know what the deal is with all these constant nerfs to everything anyway. i use to be gadgets back when it would get a nerf every month
  16. thelostczarnian New Player

    then the issue should not be about dw buff it should be about all the mega nerfs. stop bringing dw into it before they delete it like they did 1h
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  17. thelostczarnian New Player

    they need to stop mentioning dw and focus on the low damage output of thier weapon of choice....#haters
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  18. thelostczarnian New Player

    ikr its like a 2 second charge or else it hit for nothing. i think that is how it was intended. high risk high reward
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  19. thelostczarnian New Player

    leave dw alone you weapon hater or i will curse you with death by email flood![IMG]
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  20. Giggles Loyal Player

    The only reason DW should be needed is that it's range attack is hitting harder than most ranged weapons. A Merle weapons right click/triangle moves should NEVER hit harder than an actual ranged weapons right click/triangle. Just as a melee weapon should always do more CQC damage than any range weapons CQC attacks, CQC attacks are left click/square just in case anyone did not know.

    Currently DW is way out of line. I understand you guys are tired of nerfs, but they aren't really nerfs,mother are balance passes passes done because someone where during an update or a hot fix the weapons code was altered incorrectly, and must be readjusted accordingly. If you ever saw the code for an MMO, you'd see how easy it is to make a mistake like this. So all of that said, they just need to readjust DW back to the way it was, after they balanced it last. Period. :)

    P.S.

    It makes absolutely no sense from a business perspective to fix 10 weapons, when they can just fix the one broken weapon and get back to more important things, like new content and other real issues plaguing our game. ;)
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