DPS this, DPS that..What about support roles?

Seriously.. Out of all the threads I've been reading lately, where on earth are all the Support Role Threads?

Right now all I see is nerf this powerset, nerf that powerset, this X powerset is too OP, that powerset is too OP..
I'm not against people DPS or comparing DPS, but it's like pre-GU 36 all over again because DPS are the front and center attention, both from the threads on gotham city; and from what's been adjusted thus far.

Guess we've come full circle eh, DPSUO?

Seriously, the first thing to get adjusted in this revamp on live was Gorilla form(DPS) And now Jackhammer(DPS)

Devs? Are support roles going to get any changes at all? I'm seeing a ton of feedback in the respective threads regarding Healers, Controllers, and Tanks.

And yet when it came to the official "State of the revamp" in the announcement thread, There were no details and I didn't see any acknowledgement of support role feedback.

That concerns me, why are people even giving support role feedback when Roleless Buffs are getting tweaked and boosted over them?....

Wasn't the point of this revamp you know, supposed to encourage support roles and 2-2-2-2 setups? I wouldn't mind, but I've heard that people are manging their power bar better without a controller in there group because the roleless buff is that strong..

Please don't let Support Roles end up on the backburner, It's a sad state of affairs when Roleless Buffs are getting confirmed to be buffed and you see nothing on the table about Support Roles...

It is harder to adjust support roles. How do you compare which power does good and which not?

It is sad. What makes it worse is that healing and trolling is so bland now. At least during AMs era you had different alternatives on ways you can play your support role. Now I wouldn't be surprise if people lose interest and become dps only.

Yes there needs to be a revamp again for support roles.

Do not let history repeat itself... DPS Online...

With the detailed feedback provided by the community

Id rather only play support roles

The flaw is not within the powers, but in the roles. They have to take a look the system behind it all.

they said they gave up on the. 2222 stuff. they caved, yet again to the DPS people. it should be clear by now. they don't much care about the support roles. even the "OP" stuff helps the DPS much more then any other role. what a bore the game will be with all DPS, complaining there not top DPS...

I just recently started healing with my nature toon again. I had not healed anything since the revamp until yesterday and today in the alerts. I can only comment on nature. It simply feels weak. The lack of burst is eye opening to say the least. I will say i had none of the powers issues ive seen many speak of. And all 4 runs were 3 dps 1 heal. Now ill admit this isnt a very big sample size to go on. But im just saying what my experience was.

Tanking i have no issues. Ive ice tanked and atomic tanked multiple raids w/out issue.

As for trolling well my main is a troll 1st. Ive solo trolled a few raids and done 2 troll runs. I had no issues solo trolling except for 1 raid when 2 people used a ton of power. But it felt like no matter what i did i couldnt keep em powered. Anyways thats been my experience so far. I know it isnt very detailed. But its what i saw and felt. Personally i felt the 2 troll raid runs were much smoother. I liked having 2 trolls in the group and there were no power issues. But these were league runs. Most LFG groups only wanna do 1 troll

Not sure why people are having power issues as healers either. I'm finding it rather difficult to empty mins as sorcery. And now that RW is fixed it should help even more. No need to spam rejuv if a few people take damage.

Fire tanking seems very much improved. Will try to run the raids tonight and see

I got told to get out of troll role and go dps for the first time yesterday, in WC. Hadn't started yet. I was like, yeah, no. You go dps (to the tank and healer, lol). And so it starts.

Troll CR116 here. Most of the raids I do with sorcery and lighting healers they have dps powers in the load out they spam between heals. Lately the last few sorcery healers I played with it went like this...circle..heal..transmutation, transmutation, transmutation, heal, repeat. Empty power bar. I know transmutation used to heal a small amount dunno if it still doesn't but wish they'd chill trying to be a battle mage.

Transmute it's actually a decent heal now.

Sadly the group is punished for having a troll in an alert. Not sure why tee devs think this is ok. But they have stated that they plan to make support tokes unwelcome in alerts completely. (Not their exact words) but their meaning when trollless buff gives more power than an actual troll can. And they say they intend to bring all roleless buffs into line with that one

Support roles dont exist. And soon, very soon roleless buffs will be put in raids to accomodate the low population of support roles.

DPS is a support role

Are you suggesting the Gorilla was nerfed too soon?

AFAIK, the 2222 setup is a figment of the forum elitist's imagination. I never saw anything from the dev's stating it was a goal. Could be wrong though.

Is it that the roleless buff is too strong or that the average Controller has no idea what he's doing? I really think this is uncertain right now.

I think he's describing a situation in which it was being spammed for damage rather than because healing was needed.

Gorilla was used for DPS as far as I know, not healing.

The 2222 setup was the development team's goal when the revamp first started up, but I remember Mepps stating that if your support role player is skilled enough, 5-111 was still going to be a viable setup.

Fair point on the roleless buff, but I still don't think they should buff the roleless buffs; save that for later and tweak support roles.

I apologize in advance if your post was sarcasm and I missed that... anyways on to my rant.

The community, especially in the beginning of the revamp, posted a tons of feedback into how things were changing... they even gave a survey for us to take that included stuff in game and about the overall testing. Some of the things folks for got changed and a bunch of things were never addressed.

Battle roles were never addressed (save for tanks and the only thing that got addressed for tanks was the fact that they made it so that you didn't have to be an active tank if you didn't want too, thus at least making tanks viable no matter what) nor were a few other cries for the other support roles.