Devs really have a hard time

What would make their jobs easier is to figure who the hell they are trying to target and stick with it instead of being so damn wishy washy.

You firmly believe there is no point in complaining about a mod which you are complaining about?

No. I firmly believe you are not seeing the point.

Well there is an entire thread about it, but to sum up Ice's problem it isn't about the 60% dmg buff. It's about the ice armor effect for getting 5 chill effects, from using one to 3 of the power that give it, to achieve the spikey ice armor effect. It was a flat out 50% dmg buff that didn't get over written or canceled.

It was a huge benefit for ice DPS's other wise pretty lack luster power set in terms of dmg and useful SC. If this mod comes out there will be no reason at all to get the effect, making 2 of 3 Ice powers semi useless. The two powers that only real effect was granting chill effects. Ice bash will still be good, but not nearly as important. Plus Frost Blast will be pointless without the dmg increased by at least twice as much if not more. Why spend 2-3 second with a charge up move that has the same dmg mod as every other power, and does pretty much equal dmg to an other move with WM crit?

Ice might get off lucky. It hasn't been 'revamped' yet with an AM. So things might change between now and then. Other powers like Fire however that just got done being revamped probably can't expect any more attention any time soon.

Oh look, another smart pants comeback. Got it. Better spec into Sonic Cry then.

The issues are more than this single damn mod for 1 no in game mechanics since Gates is pretty damn pathetic. Please don't say Wave or Lockdown have mechanics because quite frankly dodging 1shots don't count. Also don't argue that the bum raid AssBat as mechanics either the only thing remotely close to a mechanic in that raid is a cheap maze.

Um, I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, but that point (off topic as it is) is extremely valid. I agree, the boss fights were made too simple and this added boss health didn't fix that. But crying about a mod is not the same as asking for more interesting or hard boss mechanics.

Ice had a 50% modifier it could build up to called Ice Armor, and it locks. With this update every power gets a free and better ice armor. Why does Ice have Ice Armor then..? That's the problem with Ice with this update.

I do loathe when people refer to dox as the glory day raid; holier than others just because of 1shots. 1 shots dont make content difficult, there are a plethora of ways for stuff to be difficult, i'll elaborate as i get back from the store

These three lines contradict themselves. I'm an extensive Ice user, it's the only power I never stopped being in the last three years (some alts got changed, the Ice guy no, that's what I mean). Ice armour was/is useful because it locked us on a 50% damage modifier AND it added to those 3 powers you are referring to. It will still be useful because for one it will get a 10% boost from what it had (60%>50%) AND it will still add to those 3 powers.

I don't see the issue here.

If that's the problem with Ice in this update, it is a laughable one. Bring in GU40, I can't wait for my Ice Armour to have a 60% modifier and make my Chill Effects PIs stronger.

No but they tend to go hand in hand especially when you factor in that some of the HT mods have been broken since they've been introduced. Example Penetrating Strikes has been broken long before WM was introduced and still is for that matter. Focused Restoration finally after who knows how damn long just got a hot fix seeing as you kept the resto even after getting hit qualified in making broke.
That's just a few things however the list goes on and on so.

Now since my previous was a little off topic my real complaint comes when we get free buffs with no drawback which ultimately lead to watering down ever power/role. When 1 becomes reliant on the buffs received it's not empowering in fact it's quite the opposite.

Although this next part is slightly off topic it is however related to the subject at hand. Role Less buffs are basically another thing that needs to go just like all HT mods & trinkets.

Again, I completely agree with you here. It promotes extremely bad habits and I would love to see the roleless buffs go.

This one I don't follow. Are you implying we should also get rid of the 60% modifier lock that we already have? Because the powers that don't have a 60% modifier power are at a disadvantage here and "Balance" has been used so many times in the last months.

Why you so grumpy? You're saying you only want gates mechanics, which makes no sense. You're complaining because the mechanics aren't to your liking? There were mechanics for each individual boss in wave. There are mechanics we need to learn for every boss we fight, so how do you support your grumpiness?

But they shouldn't, There is no way to make everybody happy. Fact of life. All they need to do is stand behind what they do and just execpt that some (30%) people are going to ***** and troll no matter what they do.

Dev Team: Hey, here is your solution to making everyone's DPS contribute to the overall damage of the group. Max Damage mod! (^_^)

Customer Response: Now my superior DPS skills don't matter anymore...thanks...

Fast Food Employee: Here's the double cheese burger you ordered because you were sooooo freaking hungry to the point of starvation.

Customer Response: I wanted mayo...not gonna eat it.

Point is...they try people. They really try.

I can honestly say that I feel for the dev team. Contrary to popular belief, they put in enormous amounts of time and effort into this game. For them, it is their livelihood and how they provide for their families. For those who call the devs lazy or other names really have no clue what hard work really is. The devs will not be able to please everyone, yes, they have accepted that. However, the extent of which a few have taken it personal is mind boggling.
As I have stated in other threads, no one is forced to use this new mod. If they do feel forced to use it for the need to keep up with everyone else, then that just means they aren't as BEAST as they thought they were.

I'm just really irritated that most the so called mechanics since OC have just reinforced Pew Pew Divas, I'm not really grumpy. I just don't understand how any1 can claim Wave or Lockdown have real mechanics when both come down to dodging 1 shots.

Those individual mechanics just really come down to placement.

Response to the red.
The thing is balance has and never will exist. However what I'm really trying to say is no role dps,heal,troll,tank should get free buffs without some sort of catch. Otherwise the player base becomes reliant on those buffs and in the long run it helps lead to the exclusion of many roles.

Again sorry for what may have come has hostility it was unintentional.