Congratulations On Nerfing TOTDe into the ground.

Is getting a group together and trying to overcome an obstacle not the point of a game? Or, was the boss unfair, in your opinion? Not meant to be sarcastic btw. A serious question.

My only issue with this raid is Ares had too much HP to burn through in between the essence kill and the timer, you basically have to be a god tier dps like being gadgets prec or you're pretty much screwed. Other than that, I think this raid is fine the way it is.

That is a reasonable rationale. I have to agree with you in that regard. I wasn't too happy about the boss' dps being nerfed, but as far as Ares, it isn't unreasonable.

In the future with the next round of Save The Universe stuff I hope they go a different way with the content. Pick the fun raids that people like for the event and regular and pick the real hard and not fun raids as the elite one. Just double the add make each boss do a few random one shots with zero tells and cut the deaths from 3 to 2 and have at it.

To be fair we do need more testers.

If only I could get onto test on my Mac and not have to consider getting a PC just for the purpose of testing DCUO.

Ares' health was too high, that I will agree with. Just made the fight unnecessarily long. There's a difference I think between difficulty and just adding more health/defence to everything to make it longer.

The second boss was and still is the most interesting in elite.

Having groups with gadgets precision DPS, an atomic tank and water heal shielding mechanics doesn't always mean that the content is at the right difficulty. Running with might DPS, a different power tank and an electric/celestial heal. Different group setups. Then this factors into the lack of testing/testers issue.

Last boss was fine as it was imo.

For those who want a challenge, if you don't have it already there is the Death Proof feat if you want to try a no death run.

i agree the raid boss really be hitting hard like crazy yall made it seem like the raid is unbeatable when it is

Would have resulted in the live raid being harder.

Dude, look I have a serious question. Why does all the content need to be super duper uber hard? You, zNot here on the forums, Chill; y'all are all alike. Everything has to be hard, nothing is ever hard enough, and its all to easy. I know many many good players and they've run that raid and spent forever on the various fights. I know lots of people that were completing it before it was nerfed and they were using very specific setups. 1 Heal that was using a minimum of 2x 25% SCs sometimes 3, all of the DPS were either electric or gadgets ST, ALL of the DPS were hot swapping EoG and bunching up for the dmg buff. A very specific setup. I know that one group that was in their was using very cheesy stuff like Clownbox to prevent being teleported.

My point is, nothing is ever too hard, everything is too easy. Y'all are like that movie Popstar with Andy Samberg, Never stop never stopping. Anytime their is a thread on the forums that mentions difficulty or too hard, or something like that you people show up like Beetlejuice and trash talk, bully, berate, etc the other person till they just give up arguing or block you outright.

I made a thread a while back outright saying that I wanted to design a raid that is literally impossible to complete, I could not come up with anymore ridiculous crap to suggest to make it impossible and sure enough one of you that I mentioned above showed up and was "Hell yeah I like this" Even after I responded saying that I wanted it impossible to beat by literally everyone in every conceivable way. He double downed, triple downed and even quadruple downed. Never Stop Never Stopping.

So serious dude, what is the obsession with super duper hard content. This is a 10 year old super hero themed casino MMO that barely has 500k active players across all servers and platforms (Got that number from the investor report when EG7 acquired Daybreak). Its a game and people want to have fun. Now I get that a lot of people find fun in challenging content, but y'all take it to the extreme though and want to force everyone into that play style.

Remember when elite raids were difficult but the elite gear had the same stats just a title feat and slightly different style? Because I do. I also remember that none of these player that beg b***g and moan that everything is too easy barely ran that content except maybe to get the feats. I mean some of that stuff was hard. I remember that smoe of the people in a particular YouTubers discord openly said theirs no point just for a title or feats....

So my personal theory is, its not about difficulty, its not about the challenge despite the messaging. Its all about bragging rights, its about proving whos got the biggest you-know-what, whos got the more shinier/rarest aura. In fact if you people had your way, you'd lock all renown behind the last boss of the elite raid, make it all super duper uber hard, SUPER OP god tier gear locked behind certain feats and a job approval type process to even get invited like CR, SP, STATS, ALL 400 artifacts (and only ones that we approve of), credit card info, DCUO money amount and must have a phone app that needs access to everything on the phone.

PS player try hard uniform Random gear styles with void, phoenix or NFS mat (sometimes all 3), super rare OG Booster Bundle aura and ofc must have the lightning back and crown from SM.
You have no idea how many people I see wearing the SM styles that suck something fierce, die all the time, fail to hold aggro and heal simple things.

This is pretty much how I felt too. A slight decrease to Ares's hp would have been perfect and all that was needed IMO.

Ha yeah you are definitely listening to feedbacks, you are actually doing the exact opposite Évry single dlc, about every single power etc.

Have you heard our feedbacks about gadget Mepps?
Serious question as a community manager you should have play the game atleast once in the last 5 years.

But we all know in this game and in this forum you didn't.

I don't know if this has been mentioned so maybe it's worth the thought, considering where the majority of the playerbase is - platform wise - but might it be possible to either include a split login for the current DC client to include a PS4 test server, or just offer an inclusive standalone download for test purposes only?

I'm sure I'm not the only P4 player who would be willing to help test, but I'm not buying a new computer just to do that very thing when I have a current gen console sitting next to my T.V.

Food for thought.

and for everyone in here blaming Mepps -

Mepps isn't the content designer.

Mepps' job is to communicate to an increasingly irritable and irrational forum regularly consistent of people who blame things arbitrarily on the wrong causal factors all the time.

If he had an official job title based on what he actually does it would probably be something closer to "Irate Kitten Herder" or "Wrangler of Thankless ********".

I like "The ******* Whisperer."

The difference between me wanting harder Elite raid content vs some others is that i actually want it to be equally challenging and not benefit the meta or endgame leagues. as you say these top end players be hot swapping artifacts,using a OP power that needs to be fixxed/nerfed (gadget prec) and using other meta powers for DPS (elec precison).EOG spamm,buff troller buffing the damage up by xx amount per DPS in the group,and probably some other cheeky way of making the raid easyier/faster which is what they do in ALL raids they play.

The issue is that if the devs dont fixx this then theres a gap and a imblance its not even about skill its just about Overperforming things that effect the difficulty in a negative way. Not sure if you are not remembering but i was one of the first who complained about ToTD E and how the first boss feeds right into the meta since its such a DPS check and the current meta is mostly about doing as much damage as possible.

And with the rest you are saying its a mmo it has to have difficult content thats how popular mmo work even if you dont wanna believe it and we got a dev team that made multiple difficulty stages for content so theres no point in you having a issue if part of the community wants to have challenging content same way others want easy content,dont discriminate.

Thats what im saying/thinking aswell.

Exactly. Listen to us when we all say that Gadgets needs to be buffed!!

Seriously though, wrong thread, wrong topic, different process, different people, different development cycle.

I play gadgets might build. And I don't use stealth or jump like a jackrabbit on cocaine. Under those conditions gadgets is in line with my other toons. All 8.

This.

Actually now that I think about it I also don't know what EOG is or use cheese? Although I drink a lot of wine. So I guess I play as original intended? Wow I must suck.

Ok, If anyone wants to point the finger at the NERF.. it would be at me. I started the debate post launch that got me warned by Mepps. I debated the changes with Obsidian and Luke. zNot had input, but I provided some of the feedback that Charon...not Mepps implemented. Bottom line...the raid is more palatable for more of the community and this helps us ALL thru revenue and fun. Exclusion thru specific group make ups is cool but shouldn't exclude others that don't have the money, time, desire etc. to obtain these specifics to beat a 1 month raid. Not sure why Mepps singled me out for something that came to be anyway. Happy Hunting!