Can Fire Tanks actually get a viable mechanic?

Fire is the only tank power without an actually mechanic and I think it is overdue for an update. It is the only power that has a stat increase tied to gear which is weird (% increase in Resto after a certain CR). Last we have two powers that are too identical (Immolation & Enflame). It has been stated time and time again that this power does not have mechanics like the other tank powers:
Ice: Shields
Earth: Aftershocks/Pets
Rage: Rage Crash
Atomic: Healing Combos

Here is a breakdown of what we have that provides us with some mitigation.
The following powers grant healing when used on burning enemies:
Backdraft
Wildfire
Absorb Heat
Fiery Weapon

Then you have other strong healing powers that just need to be activated:
Stoke Flames
Burning Determination
Burnout

Last we have Overheat which gives you a small heal when Immolation is active:
Overheat

If these powers are going to work and be used as a Mechanic then they need to provide stronger healing. Stoke Flames and Burning Determination are fine the way they are. They just happen to be the last two powers to be touched on the Tanking side of Fire. Add a increased healing effect when Immolation is active when using powers that give you a heal when used on burning enemies. This will allow use breathing room when coming out of a block. Also change the Increase in Resto tied to CR and make it tied to Dominance. Essentially when using a power you gain a % increase in Resto based on how much Dom you have. OR just double Restoration entirely when using a power. Lastly, change the power 'Immolation' to a HOT so that Enflame is the only power (save for Inferno) to grant the Immolation PI.

I am sure there are plenty of ways to add a mechanic for Fire Tanking but this way there will actually be a use for Immolation and self healing will be a bigger factor.

Blocking, increased healing received and massive health bonuses are a Fire tank's "mechanics" as you put it.

@LT put together a great guide comparing all the tank powers. Read LT's section on Fire tanking and see that it's actually an amazing tank in skilled hands.

Maybe you should not be dom based like the other bad fire tanks ? Maybe go resto instead ? Problem solved ? We do have a mechanic. We get a 80 % in healing increase(90 with the white mod). Sure. You have to rely on a healer(s), but that's how it's supposed to be anyways. Rage is the exception, and I've always thought it was a bad idea for a tanking mechanic.

Rage is more of risk at end of day. One mistake and u crash not even the best healer will save you.

Isn't healing what fires mechanic is?

rage is an awesome tank in the right hands.. but so is every other tanking power

i dont think like fire tank needs dom... just resto and health..

The one chance the Fire Tank got revamped with the Increased Restoration Buff I asked for it to be stackable like Rage's Increase Health buff for each additional power. I was one of the few that actually tested Fire Tanking when it was on Revamp Test hoping for stronger changes.

Didn't happen, request went in one ear and out the other.

Thought it would be cool; as if Fire the more you stack / use additional powers from your trey the longer & hotter you burn for a period of time. Equaling to a higher Restoration for each additionally stacked power like higher Health for Rage.

I felt if Rage can buff the're health continuously for a period of time with no cap...Then Fire should be able to do the same with Restoration. Didn't happen...

They released it off test mediocre. Like 95% of the other Revamps with pages of feedback. People just settled for less an were happy Fire got a Tank buff period.

I don't mean it's bad. I mean I never liked the idea of a mechanic that lets a tank heal back all the damage it takes. Sure. It' needs some heals in between rage, but not much.

I'd be happier if they changed the tank trinket to be dom+breakout.
Isn't saying Immolation and Enflame are too similar like saying Cold Snap and Freeze Wave are too similar?

Yeah because I clearly stated in my post that I am dom based...

The heals are mediocre. Only Stoke Flames and Burning Determination provide good heals but it isn't enough for mobility.

I do not count tanking buffs and blocking as mechanics. I have read that section already and it clearly shows how Fire has less of a chance for survival than other tanks (maybe not atomic). Yes we have high mitigation when blocking but what about when you have to be mobile? Especially with Throne Elite when you have two punishers charging up AOEs and you need to get away ASAP. Getting out of blocking is a huge risk.

Beings you're complaining about the heals. I can only assume you are. Mine is resto based, and the heals I see from it are ridiculous. There's really not any tank that's a good mobility tank other then rage..Ice/it's shields will go down quick. Earth's mitigation won't be enough to let them move around. Atomic really can't move around that much. Soo...Not sure why you think fire is the only one like that.

Sounds to me YOU just need a little more PRACTICE.

BOTTOM LINE: Fire TANKING is a lot better NOW then it was like a few months ago. I know many people that LOVE fire tanking. It PROVIDES more HEALING then YOU are stating right now. In FACT some of these people would PREFER FIRE to ICE because of the HEALS. The ONLY problem i see with FIRE is the FACT that it can be VERY ROUGH on POWER CONSUMPTION.

If you are referring to the healing from Burning Determination and Stoke Flames then I already said they give a good enough heal. My complaint is that there is no true mechanic. Only two powers that give the best heals yet Ice has 4 shields, seriously? I want Immolation some how worked into the tanking aspect of fire and bigger heals from powers that give heals based on adds. Earth and Ice have a bit more breathing room than Fire as making any mistake with Fire then you're dead. If you are fine with how Fire is now then fine, it is not like I am calling for a nerf.

CAPS much? You mean practice blocking while popping powers after countering? Yeah don't kid yourself, I never said fire tanking was difficult.

Well gee i'm SORRY if i was throwing out some thoughts on WHY YOU think that FIRE TANKING is in need of more BUFFS when in FACT it is just fine the way it is. I mean i have SEEN MANY that have no problems with FIRE.

BOTTOM LINE: So IMHO i believe YOU might want to try other ROTATIONS until YOU find something that works for YOU.

P.S. YES i CAPS alot. It is my way of EMPHASIS. Not gonna change because it works for ME.

I'm curious why do you type bottom line.

Misplaced use of caps and the insertion of bottom line are just his way of trying to make a point without having much to go on.

Should fire tanks really ditch dom for resto? I can't remember what my build was messing around with, though I do recall using empowered channeling to give me a defense boost with asborb heat (also making it uninterruptable), which worked great when stacked with other HoTs. This was bread and butter when fire tanks had access to the power back mechanic. So much fun ;_;

I GUESS YOUR the EXPERT then.

BOTTOM LINE: ALL HAIL the ALMIGHTY RAIJIN1999 because OBVIOUSLY he WORKS on the game and IS the KNOW ALL of the KNOW ALLS.

Now to ANSWER the original question I DO THIS because ONE: I'm mostly computer illiterate so i use CAPS for my EMPHASIS. BOTTOM LINE: is just MY THING I DO just like OTHERS used to RATE the THREADS and such. I'm NOT FORCING people to read my posts.

Works for you? So, reducing your chances of being taken seriously is your intention? Weird goal, imo, but you're getting your wish, so kudos!