Calling all my Gadgets Brothers and Sisters, and everything in between

I would like to be able to use my weapon again in my rotation.

As you all know, gadgets is just none stop..you can go all day with your rotation...but no weapon

Question: Do any of you use a loadout that also includes a weapon attack in the rotation?

I feel like my beautiful prowess with martial arts and dual pistols is just to look cool in front of the rookies fresh off the ship in the east end.

Have a nice day

Funny how it turns out isnt it? I mean it wasnt that long ago people didnt even want to use weapons in their powers rotations, and now here you are asking to be able to use it once again.

like i said WM needs to make its return, i still feel that it will be.

it may come into play for sorc/elec/nature/earth but past those powers no I dont see it being useful. Much like it is now. AM > WM loadout wise.


b/c think of it so much is WM excluded so theres 0 point to using WM, and to top it off WM is slower then flip slash/scissor kick

i never said it would beat the AM's i hate the fact that players think they control the way other players want to play the game, if the WM does make use for other power i say go for it, at the end of the day those other players don't pay for your sub so why should they chose what you do or play?

No need to roll your eyes. Different people have different tastes. One player might love just playing from the tray, the next wants just weapons.

Personally, my favorite version of gadgets was the weapon clip heavy pre-wm featuring photon blast.

Hey I never once said I didn't want to use my weapon, I never complained about WM unlike half the bloody population of the game. Think of me as the lonely simple 1% I just enjoy the game. Don't assume.

If you want to use weapon attacks along with AM use, then just use them. It's never been an "either/or" situation in my experiences, at least not unless someone is chasing the scoreboard or something like that.

My own loadout/progression for Gadgets is Gauss Grenade to Cryo Foam to Sticky Bomb to Dart, of course after starting Battle Display. If I'm not in the mood to run through the whole combo, I'll hit Gauss Grenade and Cryo Foam to get the DOT going and then start attacking with weapon attacks (usually Pulse Beam, Hand Blasters are probably my favorite weapon in the game).

AM use doesn't mean you have to use the full AM rotation when in combat every single time.

I like using my tray. I never ever liked using my weapon. I felt two things when I had to use the weapon clip preWM. One, why do I have to use a weapon when I'm a super power? Two, I feel limited on what I can do even if I have all these powers I can slot. I like Advanced Mechanics. I think they are a good idea. I hate how they implimented them though. Because you are still limited on what you can do to get optimal damage.

It's rediculous. They limited your powers you can use in it so you had "alternatives" (like clipping and WM), but they screwed up one powerset and made it OP. Since they decided never to nerf again, they had to continually bring up the lowers to the new benchmark. Thus creating this perfect rotation to continually go up and up, making alternatives obsolete and thus making entire power trees ignored and having required powers take a permanant slot with no wiggle room.

@OP. I like my AM. I don't want to use my weapon unless I am out of power because I wasn't paying attention. But I feel you on wanting to do other things than just what is required.

i switched my gadgets to sorc for 2 reasons

1.with sorc i get to use my weapon and not be bored to death with the 12345 repeat combat

2.healing as an alt role is much more useful to me and not as boring as troll role

thats just my 2 cents

You can use your weapon, gadget's grace period is actually long enough to fit in a flip slash in between powers. You'd still end up losing damage though. Maybe that will change after the weapon update, who knows.

I don't give a d-a-m-n about AM or WM, I just use my powers and my weapons on all of my toons. Guess I don't know how to play according to some people.

I use rifle and use the range tap in between powers, though I use KB/Mouse, I tried it with a gamepad..... idk, kinda impossible.
sorry for the shameless youtube plug

You can spot the grenade flying in there and the white ticks, they're kinda helpful if you have explosive adapter



Like Veritech said, finisher moves is probably my favorite era since it changes your rotation during the <30% health phase of a boss fight.



Though, I can't really say I didn't like WM era. The community pretty much established different FOTM WMs but it was still up to you and your power how you would add extra damage to your WM rotation, for instance, adding DoTs.



Anyway, personally, I never had a moment of "not using my weapon".

grabs popcorn

I have a gadgets toon I rarely play it though, mostly seasonals. I like using weapons (and I do still use them in between rotations) but I was the 1 sitting at my sparring target for days when wm was introduced learning the different combos. Then ams came into the picture they were nice because of the power regen being so quick but it ruled out the use for using weapons for most powers.

This is why I am not for ams I wish they just tweaked whatever it was before to make it better but not rule something else out. Ams made loadouts boring & to easy which is why I never have & never will be supportive of them. I still use my weapons in between rotations and don't get me wrong I like being on top of that leaderboard on occasion but for the most part I really don't care, so what if I don't get on top because I used my weapons I'd rather that than be a mindless robot spamming powers over and over again.

Such a shame they had to go and destroy the game with Weapon Mastery and Advanced Mechanics.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but c'mon. Too much focus on one or the other was bound to throw the two out if balance.

Both (WM & AM) should simply be removed. Period.

Absolutely. Weapons cause damage, have control effects from combos, can aggro something, and do not ever cost power to use, and do not have to be used in a particular rotation. Not to mention you get power snd sc from using them.

Using a power rotation only is a dumb idea. The battle computer is not meant to be trigfered once an only once. It restores health when you activate it, and if it is colled down you can reactivate it even if battle awareness is still active. Battle computer takes power which is not regenerated, also.

It is more like Gauss, BA, distract, pdart, lunge, stealth, uppercut, destealth, pdart, 25 hit melee combo... there are trinkets involved too.

You want to be able to use weapons, I want to be able to use my nature toon.

** Pre-WM: loadouts had variety,

** WM, pre-AM: WM came on top, had to use (DPS side) for end game. Ppl complained (a lot),

"I'm a superhero, I want to use super powers, why am I bound to weapon; not all are Green Arrow or Deathstroke" or
"what's the point of power tree if we can't use them",
"DPS power is all precision based now, what's the point of might"
Fair points.

** AM: AM finished for all powers. AM > WM (most powers)

AM /hybrid alternative "12345 is boring, at least with pet powers I can still use some weapons"
Fair point as well.

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Historically it was either WM on top or AM on top; never both as equal alternatives. At this point, just leave WM alone. Finish nature, elec, and weapon distance.

If any revisit, I rather they make AM less cookie cutter than buff WM.

You mean how like people complained that it took too long for content, than we got monthly content and everyone started saying the content made them feel like they were in a rat race. (which this game is anyways)