im currently a ice tank and have 121 SP's with a CR of 112 yes im fresh meat, just recently started playing this game id say for about 2 months. ice tanking is great and very starter friendly but im interested in self healing myself but i do understand you need a good amount of Skill points to take on the task of doing so compared to ice tanking. Im fine with that ill get to that point eventually but for now.. Which self healing tank would yall say is the best for a low skill point guy like myself (121 skill points) which self heal tank will be more friendly for me until i get my SP's up FIRE TANK or ATOMIC TANK?
Atomic. Fire tank you are more reliant on a healer. However both do quite nicely. People prefer atomic though due to not having to block all the time.
Atomic is more active while fire is more reactive. Both are great but to elaborate what I stated above. Atomic is more active in the sense that you must continue your aura with combos. There is a 12sec window to refresh it which gives you time to do counters. Fire is more reactive in the sense that you'd have to be more aware of your surroundings and react to what adds and bosses are doing.
I think Fire is more friendly, even if you dont have a lot of SP. Youll be relyingin your healer most of the times anyway. And i mean Fire is more friendly because with Atomic you need to keep comboing to keep your aura up. Sometimes, if you fail at comboing, youre gonna have a bad time. Its more fun, but if youre not used to combo powers it could be hard. With Fire, pull and block, pop a power and block. Its easier but a little more boring.
Personally I think Atomic is the best tank power you can heal yourself its power sufficient in alerts you dont even need a healer or troller because it uses so little power and keeping the aura makes you heal yourself ontop that you can use proton remedy for some more heals try it definetly easy too considering i was never a tank and tanked PBR a day after i switch from gadgets to atomic after being a controller.
I like rage, no idea on how it compares to atomic but I really like the tank mechanics. It's more of a large ad group tank power, or at least I think the power does better with more ads around. Gonna need 2 trolls if you really want to get busy with rage but that's the price you pay for near invincibility. Rage is my preferred tank for BDe final fight to hold the ads while the group just fights black hand, but I still prefer an ice on boss as that power feels better at 1v1. I would suggest leveling each to 30 and testing out the tanking side of each to see which one you like the feel of.
Of course the more skill points you have the better . Now it depends on your 5anking style more turtle or fighting. Atomic has to stay fighting in order to to stay up and it's self heals are not 5he strongest but consistent. Fire you have to stay on top of your power management keep things burning in order to self heal plus as a fire tank you should invest in resto heavily most so then any other tank. But if you are still open to an idea look at rage go after your Dom and precision and with remorseless recovery you can do self heals off of attacking with your weapon. If you get your precision over 2500 your attacks will heal you over 10k. Plus rage mod will keep you healed as well but if you are on a ps3 then you might not want to do rage but it gives you the ability to turtle or fight how ever you want.once you get your sp over 180 you will have a ton of options
Thanks for the responses guys i forgot to mention i also do alot of PVP because theirs tons of feats their too and i'd like to tank in pvp as well so yeah im trying to take that into consideration as well. so basically what i switch to will be used for pvp and pve both in tank role (just something user friendly for low skill points) leaning towards atomic but would love more responses and info from you guys your helpful sorry for the nagging
if you are asking which tank power does the most self healing then it is rage in a pure landslide i do not know what game or what question everyone else was getting at with this atomic/ice stuff trust me rage only heals for every single dmg u take... and also 120 SP is enough to tank everything in the game effeciently ... because at this current moment in time stats dont matter... unless you are rage tanking
Go for atomic. In my own opinion it is the most fun. It is good even if you don't have alot of sp in your case you have a good little chunk. Plus, the dps is good. Pvp fire is hands down the best. Because of the ridiculous high heals it has. But that's getting fixed soon. But, atomic is not bad.
If you are also looking for pvp the precision base attacks and weapon combos of rage might be to your liking. If you have remorseful recovery active with over 25 precision then you will self heal off of your attacks alone over 10k plus rage mode and raising your health bar you can get good damage off of how active rage is
Best self heal tank no matter what your SP is ,,,,,, RAGE, the hardest tanking power to use above all others.
IMO rage is the best healing tank. you get 100% healing for a given portion of time and then cancel rage crash. when playing rage stats don't have any effect on the healing of a rage tank
DOMINANCE STATS ALWAYS have an effect on a rage tank. That's how a rage tank's health goes up is from the adds, so the more adds it has around it the higher it's health will be. That is from DOMINANCE and it is strictly a RAGE TANK thing. So the higher your DOM the higher your health when you have more adds next to you then the better you heal because you are taking more damage. A Rage tank should never rely on the HEALER to keep them up for the fact that it's health pool can go so high the HEALER can't keep up with it. I have never seen a HEALER who can instantly give 250k in power to a RAGE tank who is about to go down.
Unfortunately, tank's mechanics hardly matter in current CR differential system. I used to be able to tank any content at entry level CR for any instance and after CR differential I have to be exactly at enemies' CR level or it becomes a struggle.
It's more visible on the least forgiving powersets. Earth and fire to be exact. Rage has minimal effect from the CR scaling if you stack the heath high enough.
So basically Rage Tank = Best choice PVE wise? Fire/Atomic = Best choice PVP wise? ive decided that i'm going to do maybe one or two more months of legendary. ill respec to rage tank But after im done with that ill be Free to play and will mainly be doing lots and lots of pvp majority of which will be arena 1v1's and 2v2's Also for pvp tanking with fire and atomic how should i be spec'd skill point wise? and what mods should i use?
