Basically impossible to PUG T5 raids

That's impossible - you did something wrong.

Read. He said all that changed was the V mod to a V expert. CR increased.

you will never see 99 cr with current loot tables without expert mods. i got a cr bump on 5 items with out seeing a bumb in total cr so good luck. your like arguing with a toddler there is just no reasoning with you

Modding the blue rings with expert mods puts a crazy +22 item level on them this should raise your cr

Read. He later said he BOUGHT A T5 PIECE BEFORE modding it with a 5 expert. Than his CR increased. You don't think the T5 piece had anything to do with it? Seriously?

i did something wrong to get a cr bump? you not making any sense

Well, there's no reasoning with you. According to the way CR is actually calculated with this game, I can get to 100 CR with just basic 5 mods. Seems since you are totally ignoring how CR is actually calculated, YOU are like arguing with a toddler. There is NO reasoning when you completely ignore the actual way the game calculates CR.

I'm being sarcastic...that's what the other guy is saying.

I what meant was: i ALREDY HAD a V mod to put on all my t5 gear before even buying it,
so i i would buy the t5piece and mod right on spot and check my cr,
even after having bought all the t5 gear and modded with V mods i was still 96cr,
farmed made some $$$$(that means money btw) bought 4exp mod's (prec&might mod) as i was ICE,
checked my CR and was finally 97cr , without even owning a 85Iteam level face/rings/neck/weapon,
i had the lockbox rings since,83cr weapon/face/neck.

Whats your cr? how many pieces of t5 do you have?

That's not at all what he said. He said 1) bought a t5 piece and V modded....looked at CR. 2) Later swapped that for a V expert, saw a CR increase.

LOL Now you're down to editing my posts and making it look like I wrote it. Nice, but cheap tactic.

Also, when it's based on REAL WORLD mathematics, mathemagics don't apply. But nice try.

then why isnt there 100 cr players running all over the place with just basic mods then? your calculations do not equate to what is actually happening. you got an answer for that genius?

You had to have had a level 4 mod in there. I was 97 CR when I finished my T5 set, all modded with basic mods. 96 CR is 6 or 7 pieces of T5 gear.

Uhm, there are. I've seen a few. Saw a few last night. My calculations actually do equate to what is actually happening.

That's easy to answer: he's using a spreadsheet and is pretending that it is accurate. Everyone else actually did the modding and saw the boost. Of course he's right though and we all need to go to the eye doctor.

ah lol i would have ended that post with a but then the moderater will remove the post for trolling because of an emocon seems legit

you saw 100 cr players that dont have ANY expert mods? what are the names? what server? what league? did they just tell you the cr? or did you see a live stream or screen shot? can you post a screen shot? didnt think so...

LOL.Is this guy serious?

Edit: Nevermind i just some posted a screenshot
with v mod in 1 ring showing a increase of 21 item level
and Exp mod in another ring showing a increase of 22 item level.
And even after that he still claims that exp modes doesn't increase/affect your CR.

Just ran the numbers. If I had the very best gear in the game, modded with just basic 5 mods in everything, my CR would be around 100.2. So yes, I could be 100 CR with just basic mods.