Any chance GU41 testers can set up a 4s or 5s scrim?

I know its a longshot to ask this but is there the possibility for testers to set up a 4v4 or a 5v5 deathmatch scrim? I know PC players don't scrim arenas let alone proper 5s but thought I might as well ask, I'm sure a lot of the PS crowd wants to know

Would be cool to see how the game plays out

I got a group of 5 experienced arenas players, just need to set something up with another group.

Anyone reading this, if you can get a group, send me a message.

Earlier my league did some in league 5v5s testing different powerset and combinations. Any questions feel free to ask.

5v5 scrims... Two preset teams against each other. Us on PS hope it will be the same.

This is the 1st match with some notes.

I´ll upload soon more videos on my channel

youtube.com/SpartyDCUO

and also on PentHouse Channel

Youtube.com/Penthousedcuo

Here is the vid from the 1st match. I´ll upload soon the 2nd match that was actually quite intense after some tweaking here and there.



*Big post on testing feedback coming soon

Jeez you battered them xD

Basically what you were writing on the vid was what I was seeing, solid damage out from healers

Always found it interesting the 2 troll (1 damage 1 power) set up.. not common practice at all on our server (not sure about USPS but I never seen them do the 2 troll set up either on heir vids)

Just 3 questions pop to mind straight away

1) Is there any point in using any power supercharger other than speed drain or WoP?

2) Are damage consumables (Dazing, ESPD, Static Greneade etc) banned from the arenas too?

3) As a tank do you still chop the trolls vit in half just by using a superpower?

Thanks for taking the time to set up scrims

Yeah saw the vid m8, just commented it on it above

Lots of healers were asking this on our server, is nature more viable now as it was in the past since WM doesn't 1 shot anymore?

Do you feel a difference healing the group with 26k health and 12k toughness or is it just same old?

The vit debuff is gone now base pot of 226 no mods. Power cost is where we get squeezed. Penryn posted 1 emp cost over 1k power so 3 to 4 casts per full bar

Looking forward to the challenge xD Will I be seeing you in 5s then? ^^

Like the checkmate days then haha ^^

10 vit VI's into all my sockets lol - nah guess l'll have to test the pros and cons of pure vit vs vit prec mods

Thanks for clearing up the questions, looking forward to more games m8

The two troll setup as well as the two tanks setups (or basically any goofy setups) all originate and typically stay on USPC.

Goofball server if you ask me.

ofc i stayed away from arena soon as i seen the mess w.m left it in wasnt fun to me. You know its bad when pvp chat is full of guys wanting no w.m no deadly block scrims.
Ill be back for the update along with a few leaguemates but have no idea how busy server will be thats my main fear. Atm we have 2 v strong 5s groups on destiny including myself. Nit sure i can drag em all back for this

I understand some people call it goofy. In my experience, diversity with setups, help us for out of the box ideas.

Here is the other 2 matches we had

Each to their own I guess, personally I would never use that strategy. A good troll can keep the group powered up without the need of a second fake troll. Why sacrifice a DPS is beyond me but oh well

Actually is quite simple and solid. Let me share with you (have in mind this is pre GU41, with the new changes is all different).

Is not actually a complete sacrifice of DPS. A good "fake troll" can pump out only with defib between 70-120k extra power out for the team. (recharging constantly power back to the team). That difference can pretty much cover the DPS dmg from the other team, since that power is added and means a lots of heals. On the other hand, there is a simple way to compensate the dps.

With a dps you have the burst mainly from him and the tank. But if the targeted person is smart, with group mitigation you can prety much keep him on his butt with hard stuns. This means a good Grp mitigation strat can lower the dps for a big chunk.

On the other hand, that 1 extra controller allows for more in depth strategies. Just for starters, you can send 1 troller to debuff 1 healer, and the 2nd troller the 2nd one. You´ll wear down both healers. But the strongest part of this, is not only the healing debuff. Is the POT removal what really hurts the team. Forcing the main powertroll to repot, just extents the power recovery time from the team.

And the dps balance comes in game here. The 2nd controller can spam the defense debuff. With full pvp gear you should have 2-2.2k toughness (less if people combine pve gear). Thats around 31% damage mitigation. If the attack troller uses the defense debuff, reduces that mitigation for a little bit more than 700. Add penetrating strikes from both attack troller and the tank. This means, the target will drop his toughness from 2-2.2k ish down to less than 800 toughness. You won´t have a dps role, but you increase the whole team´s spike damage due the loss of innate armor mitigation from your main target.

Not only that. At the same time, the 2nd controller is keeping not only debuffed, but powerless the other target. Forcing the main power to repot constantly or dry out. Is a loss/loss. Even if they are cleansed, now they have no pot. And if he also uses the defense debuff. Is an extra pressure on both sides. If you do that, the dps from the other team will be dry by wearing down their team in 2 fronts.

Even worst if they decide to go after the power troller. Not many teams use the healing debuff in "fake troll" stance to strip down the pot from the main troller. If you have the 2 trollers doing that, they can basically keep the main power troll with no pot. Those are only some examples i wanted to share, so you can see it from our perspective. Not having a dps in the team, doesn´t necessarily means a lost of spike damage.

How much are counters currently hitting for in arenas on test?

As far as i know penetrating strikes is banned, along with the other HT mods.

You'll definitely want hybrid mods, vit & power and you'll want to run a two power troll set-up. With power cost increased, you're going to need the extra power or else that vit you have will be useless.

He said PRE GAME UPDATE 41.