A Satisfied Customer Right Here!

You do the same. Don't speak for 'several others in your circle'.

The several others have already said they liked it, however, your statement was more broad.

Most people are unhappy with it.

How are most people unhappy with it? Out of every single person I've seen here on the forums, anytime there's a thread like this one that pops up praising the update; you come out of the wood works and try to discredit or dismiss people who support these changes.


"Oh this update will fail."

"Oh this will backfire."
"Oh everyone on live hates it."
"Oh they'll have to undo all the hard work they did because the game will die."

"Great, enjoy your scraps."

The fact that you guys are saying "Oh they are taking old content and presenting it as new." is exactly why this update was needed.

Think about it; Old content is Old Content. Nobody should care for it once they've beaten it right? But because we've had 7+years of face-rolling from overgeared players, this content that's old actually comes across as fresh because people can experience it properly. If some people think it's fresh because it's better than daybreak's newer offerings; more power to them. It's a chance for daybreak to make more progress and do even better with their episodes.

And you guys are ones to talk about Old Content being presented as New. Yall were thirsty for Survival Mode until you weren't fellas, I'm just saying..


Don't @Me with "SM is different." Because what is SM really? Old Content and Old Bosses with harder artificial difficulty and limited revives?
Yep sounds about right to me.


I do expect backlash and for folks to quit; but this clearly ain't as lopsided as you and the rest of you lot are trying to paint to be.

People will stay for the update, others whom played DCUO during the AM era up until now; they'll be the ones probably most likely to go.

Let the Thanos DCUO population snap commence, I'm all for it.

Wait, is it me or is it "you guys"? Very confused by your post overall.

You y might disagree with me but do pop over to live and see how people are taking it.

Minus the few outliers, people are running content and que times have been shortened by large margins with people spamming for source marks...etc. But, Jacob is right...as a veteran to this game, my sentiments echoed that there should be a challenge to this game, including from those of us who lost our minds when they released the role less buffs which terminated the support role outside of 8 player content...(so glad that is gone too, or significantly reduced to nothing where support is probably needed with a competent healer at minimum in a lot of content.)

Since the 'training wheels' have been taken off, the complaints like the ones you and others are making now calls for a bit of irony especially considering a lot of players (not all, and certainly not saying you specifically) who are currently complaining were also the ones asking for higher difficulty content.

Now, I know the next thing that will be said, is that 'we are asking for new content, and not being forced to run old content we can't face roll anymore QQQ, QQQQ"..(try running FOS3.....that content is still being face rolled in 4 minutes or less with Supes and Zod running their mouths).

Ever thought that the Devs wanted to get the UI out to get us used to it, allow us to start leveling our allies, and understanding them a bit more before they released new content in 3 months where they will probably be more of a factor?

I've played since launch and got a kick out of running a raid that actually called for some balance and situational awareness again. That group also had several other long time vets. So, no, it isn't just new players.

Actually, hold that thought

How is this not about old content? We didn’t receive any new solos, duos, alerts, or raids. We had our stats clamped and now we are forced to run as watered down players. How can you say it’s not about old content when it’s content that has been in the game for almost 10 years? Some of this content is older than some of the new players! This episode shouldn’t even be called an episode, it’s not. There’s no new content to run. You just get marks from running older content as a watered down player. The only place your end content gear matters now is end content, that’s not fair.

If everyones stats are being clamped for this “new and refreshing” content , why even have gear, skill points, or artifacts? Why did they think they should make these changes for a majority of people who never wanted anything like it? I have, without a doubt, seen more protest than acceptance both in game and on the forums. I hate when they make drastic horrible changes like this. Its horrible they waited 10 years to do this. It’s something they should have saw coming and looking at the failures I can see they are their worst enemy. Nobody hurts this game like the devs do

Exactly, every single one of those devs new players of all crs would hate being clamped. It’s just not fun, they really sucked the joy out of the game with this update.

I just wanted to address this point.. Leveled ARTS and higher SP along with Buffs will make you stronger at the clamped level than players who do not have these advantages. The devs mad this point pretty clear. In fact, clamped content should encourage Art leveling and feat chasing. (though admittedly, the latter will now be tougher)

We simply can't face roll anymore. I have no problem with that. But I certainly respect your observations and feelings regarding this update.

I am having a great time with it but do understand why some people don't like it.

This is a GREAT observation! Well said!!

If they even remotely care about their skill points they would have ran all FOS’s hundreds of times, just like others had to do. Do you think people run FOS if they don’t need any feats from it? Maybe to help a friend, but not because they want to be a teacher to new players for free or for really poor rewards.

I just ran paradox wave yesterday with a bunch of cr 88 people while I was 113. They had no idea they had to kill the side bosses first. We were in there for 42 minutes, I almost fell asleep on the tyrant. I realized the number of raids, alerts, duos, and solos I can run will be severely limited now. A 7 minute raid for someone who is above cr for it now takes 42 minutes how is that a good thing at all?

These people who want something refreshing sound Bored, maybe they are the problem. Devs shouldn’t be succumbing to the opinions of Hobby-less people.

But we have been face rolling for the last 10 years. It was a part of the game that most people always loved having the ability to do. Most of those new players don’t even stick around anyways.

Untrue since i started in 2011... Im having tons of fun. To be honest, this deff puts DCUO back as my side MMO to FF14.

That raid was always intended to be a stepping stone. Chaos in the main room too much? Tunnel it up, yo. Doing it all in the main room should take a group knowledgeable about the mechanics. EO-ing in 7 minutes shouldn't be the "norm".

But those are just my opinions...as well as the small circle I play with. I know someone said speak for yourself, but our only complaints in league last night was that the loot tables seem wonky. Beyond that, more lolz than we've had in a long time.

Imagine being so self involved that you think your experience is the default experience of everyone else and default to thinking everyone is talking about you when they're literally talking about others.

It's not about you.

See above.

So, no, no one said it's just about new players.

This especially. Solowing has been supporting the clamp all week and it's for exactly this reason -- they're bored with Final Fantasy so come here and instead of accept this game for what it is, they're supporting forcing the rest of the playerbase into playing the way they want them to; ignoring that most people don't want to play like they do and will be driven away by all this.

I'm so over these self-involved takes personally.

Interesting.

A lot of us were getting missing collections and pieces of styles etc so the only thing our group was satisfied with last night, was the updated loottables. Charon did an excellent job finding all the old stuff people hadn't gotten finished and integrated here. No one was happy with the rest. Even the friends who enjoy difficulty conceded this wasn't accessible to the main playerbase or suitable for grinding and repeating.

People were getting participation trophies by being carried before the update.

Eh it’s only been you and a few others shouting your disapproval on the forums, and it’s the same in game. You’re in the minority sis.