A new progression System/Gearing System?

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by zNot, Apr 13, 2021.

  1. Ekart Committed Player

    Hard no on RNG drops again. We reseted Paradox like crazy, just to figure out that they "forgott" to include certain pieces into the loot tables. It was fixed eventually but still.

    The same goes with rare elite drops. Don't mind them, but don't bind feats to them. RNG is so bad on them, that it hurts (looking at you Ultramans cape).

    For the "do an elite feat, get a piece of elite gear". Yeah... No.

    Renown system is not ideal but it's good enough. I find it ok, that we have more ways to earn renown with Flashpoint, because some players don't like to run raids and feel more comftortable in duos and alerts.
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  2. Proxystar #Perception

    You want to change it back to RNG based gear drops, hahaha hahaha oh my hahaha hahaha oh wait you're serious, lol

    Hell too the ****, no, that system is absolute ********, excuse my colorful language.

    In terms of everyone having elite, that's not really true at all either, I suggest that's probably your perception based on it being common within the circle if friends and players you interact with, there's numerous numerous players with just regular so I think that's a misplaced view of yours.

    Also if they've earned elite gear, where's the problem or are you unhappy there's too many people on your level?
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  3. KHALONofOGUN 10000 Post Club

    That's pretty much it. He has appointed himself the gatekeeper of Elite. Which is funny, because he's not a green name/Developer here. :rolleyes:
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  4. PTFreeze Well-Known Player

    So i read it right the elite guys again want more harder challenges to get specifffic stuff only a handful can get ???

    i got a simple idea for that why we dont do it that way every casual gamer leave the game? or the elite gamers are the only guys who pay for this game im sick of options like this if u need a new challange do another game but dont destroy this one with your damn little egos
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  5. Yvtq8k3n The 7 Well-Known Player

    I really like some good RNG, but sometimes it can be frustrating.
    What I really hate is the op system, I'm a proud premium elite player that usually runs elite every week, but in the end I see casual players that cannot perform their role at a competitive level getting the op items. I don't mind if I get te op late after all that the perks of being premium, but I think only players that took their time and effort should be able to acquire it, in other words elite should be the only place op pieces could drop. (Devs made Titans: Amazonian Life-force catalyst elite only and people complained so hard that got reverted so...)

    I really don't hate the higher dificulty elite raids granting the best gear, I can see something quite similar to diablo, where you have a piece of gear containing the same style but depending on the rarity/dificulty it could have better stats. So in other words there are 5 levels of dificultly in the current raids. If we beat dificulty 1-3 gear cr is inferior then elite vendor, dificulty 4 cr is slightly higher, dificulty 5 cr is higher but it would be nice if it required a certant condition to be accessed like one of the group members must be wearing op gear or only available after a feat completion (Increasing dlc longevity)
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  6. zNot Loyal Player

    No absolutly not ,im happy to see more players that have access to Elite gear, i was just thinking of something that would reward players more that lets say do difficult elite raids at high stages such critical versions if we get this in future episodes again,and as i said the idea came from SM where they did reward players who complete specific higher rounds with Best in slot pets or the unique back style. And as i said it shouldnt take anything away from other players.

    And this SM was pretty popular from my experience despite that fact that it was a unbalanced kiting show SM - 4 man which shows that people do have interest in such content that rewards them based on their skill level.
  7. Proxystar #Perception

    If he has an issue with elite content difficulty then he can provide feedback like everyone else, in fact he already does ironically and when they make it harder based sometimes on his feedback, he's still not happy because there's too many people according to him that haven't earned that elite gear, because they must have cheated! They can't have beaten it, because he's the best :)

    I mean that's the underlying theme I'm reading here from the OP lol
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  8. Proxystar #Perception

    There's additional feats to obtain in elite, theres numerous styles tied to elite, there's going to be tier 3 pets tied to elite, there's exclusive titles in elite, there's already an elite gear set and enhanced style exclusive to elite, there will no doubt be feats tied exclusively to critical mode, but you want even more? Lol dude, okay...
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  9. zNot Loyal Player

    Can you share the posts where Tier 3 pets will be tied to Elite content? Thats a good thing. Even if they dont do anything its fine but i feel like certain people here try to blacklist others from doing threads if it doesnt fit their opinion.

    And no i was just giving some ideas im already thankfull for what Charon and other devs have done the game starting with the speedflux raid dcuo went into a very good direction and maybe they were thinking about a gearing system too? Who knows.
  10. zNot Loyal Player

    Thats how mmos work nobody stops you from doing elite content its your own choice if you arent able to do so you shouldnt get salty over it i personally never say anything about regular players since they are very very important for the game and are just as respected by me as i respect players that are at endgame you can suggest things you want i wont stop you from doing that therefor i dont understand why you would react like this for something that wont effect you.

    Competition is normal in games mmos,shooters,fifa its part of online games and its not there to offend you or anybody that isnt into it.
  11. zNot Loyal Player

    Yes i agree the current system is good its okay but i thought maybe something to improve it this thread was mostly about other opinions about the gearing system not mainly about my idea that was just one that i thought of as a example that i remembered during origin crisis.
  12. zNot Loyal Player

    I never said anything about other people cheating by defeating content lol can you show me a proof? And no im not the „best“.
  13. PTFreeze Well-Known Player


    lets make that simple thats an game for us all but you need more attention if u do elite or even harder stuff ??? let me tell u what i see here that game got an sm and thats even to mutch for the most now let ppl see something they reallly want but cant get bcs its away to hard how should casual gamer enjoy a game that should get more and more elite stuff

    and btw it effects at us all if elite guys get more and more specffic gears and stuff bcs many of them think they are the top of the world and dont need to help guys up getting the same stuff someday so yes that effects at us all
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  14. zNot Loyal Player

    You are able to do any content a „Elite“ player can, if you understand the game better improve your playstyle you can do the same but if you put less work in and expect to get same results i think you need to rethink your stragety. I can also sit on the watchtower all day do nothing and then ask for free stuff and the best stuff.

    Even beginners can do the first stages of SM without much effort some people simply dont want to put in the work and im not saying its you :) but i hope you get my point. I think dcuo is your first mmo? If not you should know that almost every succesfull mmo has endgame content with challenge but thats not even the point of this thread its about the gearing system.

    You are free to tell your opinion but SM is popular ,Elite content is popular from my viewpoint they made a elite duo because elite content is a important part of the game also the devs have the numbers on how popular they are.

    There is a reason why the top 4 voted Episodes in the bracket list had some of the Hardest elite raids in them. :)
  15. Proxystar #Perception

    Look, i get ya lol, perhaps I was coming across a bit abrasive ;)

    I just don't think there needs to be any further progress elements introduced that further convulute what is presently a very basic but functional system.

    Im entirely however open to the prospect of changing how people gear up and whether that involves buying normal gear before getting elite gear, because that is more entwined with there simply being a slightly more natural progression curve, I don't see the need however to introduce what would be a 6th tier of gear within DLC progression, that's just too much.

    In terms of the tier 3 pets, Charon made it clear the tier 3 pets would come from elite and SM and in fact, I believe that's even written on the tooltip for those pets on test server, there was even a feat attached to obtaining the elite tier 3 nightmare bat.

    The tier 2 blue icon pets drop in regular content.
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  16. PTFreeze Well-Known Player


    u didnt said that or? let me tell u something about guys who pu (less work) in it some of us work harder today to get feats as the ppl that nearly fall over them as they was in the event version but how about u start a new char find ppl u really wanna help u doing older feats (without guys u allready know) you guys dont see the point here you want more and more elite stuff and than you have to only focus at that and the game breaks apart behind you bcs nearly no one is ready to take a look at the casual gamers isnt hard to say they wont if no one helps them bcs everyone is to busy with put himself at the next better place so before u say something about challenges take a look who got the challenges today

    and yh thats why i think this crap with higher and higher stuff has to stop look down to ppl that need help today and not up to get even a more unique gamer bcs i wanna be honest i dont respect guys who say we need the next challenge and forget that they was a small little noob someday too!!
  17. Proxystar #Perception

    It was the implication of what you were saying or how you were saying it, it was probably unintended, so don't worry about it ;)
  18. PTFreeze Well-Known Player

    and btw an mmorpg isnt just fo challenges even if the most guys here think that no its more for work with other ppl resach something TOGETHER
  19. Scytthe Well-Known Player

    You are complaining for nothing here, you want easier raids do normal raids, people want harder raids they do elite, now if you can’t do elite and don’t want to put the effort for it or you simply don’t have intereste for it, stick to normal raids. Simple

    There are no ppl who need help, if people want to do harder raids they shouldn’t need help from others, they have to get the gear for it and need to put the effort and get the knowledge for elite raids.

    Elite raids players aren’t here to help regular players to clear elite raids, just play your way if you can’t do something then just don’t do it it’s simple. There is a lot of easy content in the game already.
  20. PTFreeze Well-Known Player


    So you started as an elite gamer and no one was ever help you you learn all fromyourself is that what you wanna tell me omg that game needs alot more guys like you honestly