A few appologies to all of you long-time forum users out there...

No one in your league got the rare drops, that does not mean they didn't glitch.


See what I did there...this witch hunt mentality has to stop. The apps are the bane of this games existence because you have a toxic community willing to use them by any means necessary to hurt others.

I just hope the devs realize the error of their ways and STOP releasing the census data

I'm not painting your entire league. I'm painting you and the few others in your league that I saw with my own eyes with the elite hades gear. Getouttahea with that woe is me crap.

Funny to me that people are so obsessed they've been keeping up with your gear Gunny LOL, additionally some of the people questioning you are far from respectable, i'd go as far to say they've likely cheated/exploited more than most of us.

I like my steak medium rare..LMAO!

Listen, obviously Gunny's post backfired, just leave it at that. I'm still not understanding the initial premise of his post though.
It sounds as if he's upset that there is Census application that can show a person gear and people can look it up and surmise he they got it and use that information to call them gltichers.
I personally don't see the reason or the wanted effect behind his post, but I'm not sure if its the effect he was looking for, but I will say this if he is trying to defend himself as not glitching or being a part of a glitching group well then he is only kidding himself.

Lets see, 2 Eltie DPS pieces with a mixture of 97/98 DPS gear as well as a 98 chest piece with Reserve Tank in DPS stance and 98 Shoulders with no mod...I'm sure you absolutely beat the Elite Level Throne straight up as the second or 3rd DPS with that assuming that you had a 98/99/100 Weapon/Utility belt in its place and replaced it with the legit Elite weapon and Utility Belt you got "legit" even after you're self imposed break since Halls of Power....LOL

Now that is some high level Elite game play I must say...

Come on dude you're not fooling anyone and only making yourself look a bit silly Sir...

Or is it your point that applications like this exists to point this out ??

@ Winter12

EXACTLY!

That is what this turned into. You guys are literally looking for ANYTHING to incriminate me, or anyone else you disagree with. When it isnt there, you claim it was. Or you claim I did something else to prevent it showing. In the absence of evidence, you choose to make it so i have the burden of proof to prove my innocence.

I could sit here and turn the whole thing on anyone else if I felt the need to as well and question everyone's integrity, but why bother? Its counterproductive, and the reason I bring it up now is its not going to change. It will STAY counterproductive because a VERY small portion of the community is actually using this information in a manner it was intended for. Normally, its the 10% bad apples out there ruining it for the other 90.

I never supported the census data being made even more public with the creation player made applications/sites.
I also never supported combat rating information being displayed...After 4 years of gameplay without it being displayed.

I know my fellow DC Universe Online players and I know them well. These were two features that would not be handled well by the majority, and handled well by the minority.

I'm not entirely sure I understand your post. Are you upset he doesn't mod his gear? Or are you making an assumption that the lack of mods somehow demonstrates he must have glitched? If it's the latter, I can probably find lots of similar characters in tier 5 and 6 who are too low to have even run TOTD to negate that reasoning.

I'm not saying he did or didn't cheat. I do not have that information at hand. But your post does back up his premise that people are using the apps to make baseless accusations through ridiculous assumptions.

Malychyte, I'm using that gear for testing loadouts. Hence the reason for the reserve tank, so there's enough power to use a full rotation.Its a spare chest who's ONLY purpose serves to provide additional power to test with.

But hey, I guess I could be accused of glitching and needing temporary replacement gear as well. Thats the problem. I'm guilty until proven innocent...

Didn't you quit? Real question.

Unfortunately Gunny, your league has(had?) 10 CR 115s. 5 of the 10 were quantum so anyone looking in would easily lump you in to the Glitcher party. You still haven't confirmed or denied if you were a part of that btw. What I still find funny is that you and your mates tried to say you all completed the elite raid successfully without glitching it. This back pedal deflection may have worked if you all used reflect I stead of tunneling

Gunny,

Please don't mistake me here. I personally don't care about who does or doesn't glitch, if anyone wants to glitch then glitch away, enjoy spend your money and keep glitching to keep this game going, it doesn't effect me in anyway shape of from if people want to glitch PVE gear.
If its PVP than that's a different matter entirely, as contrary to popular belief there is no direct competition between players in PVE content.
My point is you know you did, you know you were in group that glitched it, you got 2 Eltite pieces on your toon from an Elite raid that only been out for what 3 weeks, and was disabled for a few days and was bugged for a few days and you just came back so say whatever do whatever have fun and enjoy, but you and almost all 115+ before last Thursday's re-activation are not fooling anyone so please stop trying.

@Zoul - I see where you getting at, assumption, basing info and all that. Again, this isn't a court of law and I'm not trying to prove or disprove anyone or anything it speaks for itself. Like I said in a previous post there is common sense knowledge and there is hard core proof and they are not mutually exclusive...lol
There are many things that are common knowledge that doesn't have clear concrete proof so I'll leave it at that....

Enjoy your game play

Cheers,

I'm not here to paint myself pretty. I'm not here to sit and say glitching is acceptable.

The thread was made precisely to explain why this census data is beyond abused by the playerbase. Not only was the original post made to express that issue, the ensuing discussions perfectly demonstrated it. I made the point, and had to spend the last 3 pages defending myself for the actions of others.

People are only using this information to incriminate others or to advance their own agendas. They do not use it indiscriminately because when the information does not agree with their ideas, they mold the information to fit the idea, not find a new one. When they feel information cant confirm or deny their accusations, they leave the burden of proof upon the accused. Badname went so far, in one post here, to tell me to provide a screenshot for a feat to prove im "Maybe" innocent, when he could have looked that information up too!

THIS whole thread is the exact reason the release of this census data was a terrible idea that iIm sorry for even suggesting releasing parts of it in the past. If I need to drag my name through the gauntlet here to prove it, or to sit here and defend myself against everyone else, so be it. It isnt the first time I have done so, and probably will not be the last.

Being an SF member I would think you of all people would be the last to lambaste another league, given your leagues history. It truly is sad that players feel the need to attack others in this way.

I was against the census data ever being released but hey Pandora's box is open now. Deal with it. The usage of census data to expose glitchers is fine by me. Cheaters and those that associate with them should be shunned. I've served in the military and one of the codes we had was: I will neither lie, cheat or steal nor tolerate those that do. After all, you are judged by the company that you keep.

Ahhh I finally understand your true premise....thank you Sir

However I will say that you were not validated by people's comments here by using the Census data to falsely accuse....just because there is no hard proof at this time doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Everyone knew John Gotti was a Mafia Boss long before they could actually "prove it"......

The league I am in was attacked openly on a live stream last night while only providing one very jaded side of the story. I am also saddened that people behave that way.

The funny thing is doing some research.SF was/Is one pieced..first league to exploit dox.SF was in inconquerables and left or got booted for a unknown reason.gunny was in SF and got booted or left for a unknown reason.
Someone posted in the glitch 100 page thread,they had pictures of the select few members glitching dox.
Those posts went away fast tho.

Or maybe his league shouldn't try to lump us in with them and their dirty play style? Or maybe just maybe sit quietly and take their slight punishment and not make deflection threads... You know nothing of our history or mates... Being a SF member has NOTHING to do with how I personally feel.