Sorry but Gadgets has to be fixed!!!

Discussion in 'Gotham City (General Gameplay)' started by appocolyps, Oct 3, 2021.

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  1. Aduzar Light Dedicated Player

    Everyone is fed up with cheat gadgets and especially precision gadgets!
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  2. CCPONCHO Well-Known Player

    Ain't nothing sweeter than being a tank and seeing abunch of gadgets prec dps art switching. Sorry guys I'm bias since I run with gadgets prec players most of the time. Seeing the boss health just melt away is like doing the countdown to new years.

    Anyways, Gadgets is def op, it's just a matter of time before it gets hit with a nerf.
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  3. Hunted2468 Well-Known Player

    There's really 2 fixes required to solve all this.

    1) Make it so that it's literally impossible to use more than 1 power while in Stealth.

    2) Introduce a "Weapon Damage Penalty" for every single power except Wep Buff powers.


    Number 1 is without question, and anyone who tries to question it is pretty obviously trying to protect an exploit. Its not intended to allow this, theres no argument to be made.

    Number 2 is very dangerous, but also very necessary. Every few months you see threads and videos about "Precision Power X" and "Precision Power Y". Gadgets is just the latest but certainly not the 1st. Lets make this as clear as possible, the ENTIRE purpose of the last "Power-Pass" was to fully and completely separate Powers from Weapons, Might from Precision. "Precision Power Z" should not exist. At all. Ever. Period. If you want to go Precision then its about Weapons, Weapon Mastery Combos, Jump Cancelling and any Weapon Buff power/s. The end. So the only real way to solve this AND future-proof it from happening again is to make sure it never can. You use any power outside the list of Weapon Buff powers, your Wep Dmg is reduced X% for X amount of seconds. Problem solved. No more exploits through clipping, no more outrageous dmg after form changes. Done.

    It would take very, very precise testing to get Number 2 right. Which is the "dangerous" part, but at this point, outside of revamping powers into a 4-Bar Charge system, its the only way. Otherwise we can keep spinning on this merry-go-round forever.
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  4. Illumin411 Loyal Player

    This is ridiculous. Are you aware that the stealth bar has six slots? Are you aware that several powers were specifically designated to retain stealth, even saying so in their descriptions? You might as well say players shouldn't be allowed to use any powers in stealth and instead just use it as a cosmetic form change at times when they think their toon would look super cool being translucent. :rolleyes:

    You keep pluralizing "weapon buff power" as if there's more than one. There's isn't. Sooo, in our power tray the first slot should be the weapon buff and the other five should be left blank??? Great, but why stop there? Lets get rid of weapon combos and have precision DPS only have weapon taps and holds! And we can't leave out the change that is really the most important which is a 50% damage penalty for using an artifact that gives any might. That one's crucial!

    GeeTeeF Oh.
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  5. MaryMagdalene_DCUO Well-Known Player

    The devs aren't going destroy the only way to play precision. Better be some extreme buffs to compensate if they foolishly decide to listen to the dull side of the community and I don't mean mega smash and clobber kind of compensation
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  6. Hunted2468 Well-Known Player


    If you want to have a proper conversation about things, you should try to talk to people properly, not like a spoilt child who just heard the word "no" for the very first time.

    Although tbh both your response, and the hilarity of putting "Gadgets Prec dps" in your signature, tells us everything we need to know. Its a shame maturity evades you, it could have been explained so easily.

    Bye.
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  7. Xxxritoxxx New Player

    Gadgets? This game needs fixed...the devs probably cant run most the stuff they clamped haha they scared as hell to respond on creating a toon with there money lmfao
  8. Xxxritoxxx New Player

    Try building a league an keep people playing....then say hey you need to spend 300$ min on arts...oh an 300 on accomplice...an then..your ok not good but just ok after 600$
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  9. Lucerne Active Player

    What is "Everyone"'s malfunction and why can't Everyone find something better to do with their life than complain on behalf of others that don't give a damn what they think beyond thinking nerf bats based on the most vocal whiners is a terrible way to nerf/buff a game?
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  10. zNot Loyal Player

    Because this game has issues regarding difficulty (Elite raids) and content design thats DPS centric (Elite raids) and gadget effects this directly and benefits from this directly if charon wants us to feel challenged they have to fix OP things like i said before having multiple gadget dps in a raid group a buff troller especially gadgets prec is like almost having a speedhacker in the group this level of damage is N O T balanced or fair to the rest of the community! (Someone else a few posts above says something similar is like counting new years)

    and the damage difference between prec gadgets/might gadgets vs anything else in the game is just ridicilously large it needs to be balanced and you dont need to feel salty/angry about it if you want dcuo to do well you should be supporting a fair and balanced game!
  11. MaryMagdalene_DCUO Well-Known Player

    So after gadgets and elec gets their backs blown out with nerfs, will the "community" nerf Muntions and Fire or whatever the next best dps is? LOL
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  12. Aduzar Light Dedicated Player

    It's for sure that it's not the players who play rigged powers that boast of being strong with, that can see the existing inequalities of the game, too many gimmick players have the big head on this game!
  13. Drathmor Unwavering Player

    this please!!! should have been done 10 years ago and the game would be in a much better position now
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  14. Drathmor Unwavering Player

    why would electric need a nerf its not broken..

    Mental in PVP BROKEN AF!
    Gadgets with Prec build Broken AF!

    but as posted above remove scorecard and problem goes away. but I honestly don't get were your grouping Electric in
  15. Stanktonia Dedicated Player

    Circuit breaker is op lol, specifically with the gem builds, and everything being forced around supercharge generation. Gadgets is even losing to electric if there’s constant green circles illuminating the ground
  16. Kimone Luthor Genetech Clone

    "No one cares about PVP."

    There we go.

    And if you wanna see broken, fight a Healer.
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  17. zNot Loyal Player

    So you are aware of gadget overperforming and still request the scoreboard to be removed.. interesting
  18. Stanktonia Dedicated Player

    1. Those multi stealth clips don’t even work half the time, and isn’t the sole action contributing to gadgets exaggerated strength, and even when working, it actually results in a dmg loss. Gadgets is currently op because of a combination of things. suppressor, the gem spam meta, with it being able to holster multiple supercharges, and a suppressor being jump clippable in stealth, you take a away either one of these abilities and gadgets gets a noticeable fall off, the power doesn’t need some massive nerf.

    2. The second point is silly, precision has always been played by clipping might attacks to cut animations, way before revamp was even thought of, heck, way before wm was even thought of too, without the might aspect tethered to precision, not only would it be underpowered, but it would be utterly boring too, and just another 1-2-3 build like might rotations. You would also void the skill aspect of precision, and skill points as well, since both are needed to make precision work fully, skill points are more dire to the prec side, and so is skill, which isn’t the same for might. Gadgets and electric are over performing, not precision in general.
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  19. Stanktonia Dedicated Player

    Gadgets might is actually stronger, especially with amulet
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  20. xxHELLSTROKExx Loyal Player

    Quoting you because I can't find the post you quoted. Removing the scoreboard only makes players not see who is doing what. While I can list several reasons that that is a terrible idea, I'll stay on topic for once. This post may have been about someone getting beat on the board and that's whatever/ not important. But balance is. Removing the scoreboard doesn't change the fact that balance has to be attempted in order for the game to play as intended. Hiding who is doing way too much damage doesn't change the fact that some are doing probably more than intended damage. So removal of the board accomplishes nothing in terms of balance.

    I've seen 1st hand what amazing gadgets prec users can do. It is a ton in the 1st column. Not as impressive in the 2nd but still way up there compared to an average player. They can run 4 supercharged and pop that eog circle everywhere and have other players pad their numbers. It's not them doing "errmahgaahwwdd inzane damages", it is them using a well thought out build. Prec itself is not OP, gadgets is just much more able to take advantage of clipping than any other power. Electric can do better in the right setting thanks to CB. Personal belief, its eog throwing everything out of balance and we all know it. But it is doing exactly what it says it's supposed to do. Nerfing it means refunds. Removing it means refunds.

    Tl;dr
    Removing the board changes nothing.
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