Premium Members should get Royal chroma material to

I don't understand your logic, it isn't rational.

As a free, premium player you got the "gift" of open episodes, plus a skip token along with everyone else. This wasn't a benefit this was actually just an outright gift. If you own all the episodes then obviously the gift has diminishing to zero value for you, but that might not be the case for everyone.

As a paying member, you received a gift of nth metal and materials, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from subscribing for a month and then cancelling to receive the gift, if you must, consider it a one off purchase and it's still worth the purchase alone.

Members pay for the service all year round, some up front with no guarantees as to what DLC's there will be, what content there will be or whether the game will even continue. The membership gifts are provided by the developers as a token of appreciation for that support.

Buying items from the marketplace on a "buy as you go" is showing support but isn't the same degree of support, I'm not sure that distinction can be any clearer.

If you want the gifts just subscribe for a month and cancel, that easy really.

Again, Premiums got what they paid for...which is what they bought. That's it. After this open episode period is over, any Free player that went into T5 or higher will now either be forced to pay for other episodes or ONLY play Event versions of the newest episode. Meanwhile Premiums lose nothing. Premiums get what they pay for, and nothing more. If they want more, they can sub up.

Oh and by the way, Premiums can benefit from open episodes as well if they don't own the episodes that are currently open. If they own every episode then sure, they get no benefit from Open Episodes....but guess what, they lose nothing as well.

That have sense for me, now the question is the premium scale needs subscales in order to reach all for equal?

Which would be a point for its own thread, not for this one which is specifically about the Royal Chroma Materials. Do you understand now???

what? I don't understand what you're meaning.

meh nvm im tired and whatever we say the thing will not change... it is what it is

No problem, have a good night!

Good Grief man do your research before you post this wall of text, because right now for someone who wants a debate; all your doing is making yourself sound incomprehensibly Ignorant.



" He is complaining about the fact the premium member are ignored from day 0"
No he isn't. He wanted a free material. He admitted this in his last reply here, and it's in the thread title for crying out loud.

The thread title is "Premium members should get chroma material to" and here's his quotes:

Here's his second quote:

Now if he's really complaining about premiums being ignored from day 0 as you claim, why does his post say he has no problems being premium?
Strike one.
"Free Members have more benefits than Premiums, for example the open DLC"
First of all as Mepps has said:

When open episodes goes, Free to plays will be able to run nothing but the event content. If your a premium, you'll still have access to that content post February 7th. The same thing goes for subscribers as well.

Also another thing: Open Episodes EXCLUDE the latest DLC. So they can run everything except for what's given at end-game.
Free to play stops after Tier 4. Tier 5 and beyond require DLC to be bought in order to progress, and when you buy that DLC you'll become a premium immediately.
Free to play only has 2 character slots, more restricted on cash, poor inventory space, can only run vault once a week, cannot trade; cannot use LFG, and so many more limitations that you don't deal with as a premium player.
The comparison is dead wrong, it's just flat out......

Strike two.
"The game doesnt match with the cost of a legendary membership, you pay 6 month for recycled content, few gifts, no cash cap"
Six Months? Somebody hasn't done his research.
You can go sub for a month, get the materials, and be done with it for just one month. You don't have to pay 6 months, you can cancel whenever you desire so it doesn't charge you again if you desire to do so.
Strike Three... let's keep going.
" premiums dont have problem with pay more in MP or buy recycled content, not even with cash caps (but that is other discussion) "
Oh really? The OP mentioned the Cash CAP and he's a premium! If its not an issue, it shouldn't have been brought up.
If they don't have a problem with paying more in Marketplace Cash, then they shouldn't have a problem paying to upgrade for a membership; but oh look, this thread exists.
Strike Four.
"most of the premiums have all dlc" Where's your proof of this? Come on, I need data. You want to go off at me for supposedly conjecturing about daybreak's obvious business model for DCUO; but this is just malarkey.
Strike Five.


"the only matter is there is NO difference between free and premium just 1k extra cash"
Did the OP mention free to play anywhere in this thread? Let's have a look..

Nope not here.

Nope, no mention of Free To Play here either....
How about here?

Nope...

There's No mention of Free to play anywhere in his post or replies.

The only matter of "Free to play and Premium" having no differences isn't the issue the OP described at all, as he mentioned he just wanted a free material. But you've been trying so hard to tie the two subjects together when they are completely different!

Strike Six.

You want to talk about a complete and robust debate sir? For the love of everyone playing DCUO, do your research and then come back to debate with me.


Because right now the only point you proven is just how ignorant and misinformed you are.




Later.

This is the best analogy. I really wish I had thought of it.

Yup a sub snub I never miss understood that , you must confused me to some one elses complaint Im not bothering about chroma lure at all , The point you missed is premiums do not get the product they actually purchased because of an extremely low cash cap .
Simpliefied example of undetstanding of you a lactose intolerant geek buys half dozen eggs from a store but only 4 eggs are in the box a passer by aka you says to them go and subscribe some milk and eggs from a milkman instead ... The passer by agender is deliberate hindrance .
Out side digital world aka real world it's known as infringment of consumer rights by law lol sorry drifting off topic lol, Lootbox laws are just a begining when law makers crack down many micro transaction games will fall like flies.

I don’t think anyone is missing anyone else’s point. It’s just a fundamental disagreement. From my perspective, your analogy doesn’t work because unlike the carton of eggs, when we buy episodes, we know exactly what we are getting, including the fact that episode R&D materials are more than the cash cap. The episode doesn’t come with R&D materials for $3000. It comes with materials for $9000. I understand that you would prefer the materials to be under $3000, but it’s not accurate to portray it as a trick that they are not.

To try to run with your analogy, the person went to the store, had the option to get the dozen eggs (legendary) or a carton with four eggs and some milk (premium). For perfectly valid reasons, he picked the one with four eggs and milk. But it doesn’t make sense to then complain that he didn’t get a dozen eggs and can’t drink the milk.

ok

Wasn't replying your quote I was replying to a snub responce.

Well you wouldnt know what is in the example episode specialist vendor unless you were legendary or purchased the example episode or maybe dived deep into a game wiki.
The lactose intolerant geek had purchased a carten of 6 eggs and not yet complained it was the passer by's opinion to subscribe a dairy contract when the missing eggs were discovered , (I almost used a vault 76 example at first but this game isn't near that level of curruption yet so I thought omelets would be nicer).
"Crafting Materials"had dropped same as nth metal it's the exclusive plans from example episode that doesn't even exist in bounty or wanted loot rotation that is problematic , Literally locked by a hidden paywall .
Drinks a bolt soda while in goriila form !Burp , Gues what this novelty drink does.

I’m sure it was mentioned already but u do have to keep in mind, yeah a few players may buy everything as a premium (all dlcs etc), it but u always have to consider the other side of premium, like the many that could/would spend a minimum of $5 just to upgrade to premium, right now they are all under the premium category when it comes to account status

Nope, Premiums get exactly what they pay for. Access to their cash is an extra charge, not included in the price of the DLC. All of this is made perfectly clear if you bother to check the pages about the different access levels. Don't like it? Go play another game.

Edited, because it's easier just to ignore people.

That's not the case at all. Premiums have had the cash cap for years even when DLC's were a thing. Even if you owned all DLC's back then, your cash was always capped at 2,000(it's now been raised to 3,000) and the rest was to go into escrow because like I've said over and over again: The business model is intended for you to subscribe if you hate being a premium.


Every Other MMO has something like this where you can have some in-game cash, but eventually you'll reach a stopping point unless you upgrade your status. DCUO's version is just a lot more limiting.



Premiums do get the product they purchased, when they buy a DLC they are getting the DLC.

When they buy a power, they buy a power.

When they buy unlimited escrow unlock for 7 days, it's literally your escrow unlocked for a whole week.


There's no reading in-between the lines here, the products they sell you are exactly what your buying or have bought.



Seriously, where do you guys come up with this trash? First it's "Free to play has more benefits than premium"

Second, it's now "Premiums aren't getting what they paid for, they are getting mislead."


It feels like to me that some of you just logged into your accounts for the first time in a while just to bandwagon onto this thread with your conspiracy theories that aren't even remotely true or accurate.


Some of yall need to chill out with your-self entitlement.

Beware using android auto correct may have changed some words with out noticing .

Yes I've been playing on and off since ps3 beta just never bothered to link psn to site until ps4 merge .
Yes I'm aware of difference between F2P ,shareware ,trialware ,p2p and p2w ,I have full old Republic online legacy via F2P -shrugs , They seem to have mastered the escrow economy system quite well too , imagine impending doom if it imported to Sony system .

Limiting is understatement seriously goto central city and check quick Lees prices of the hidden double charges where does it say plans excluded from lighning strike again ! This is nothing to do with broker imho non members shouldn't access the broker at all and stick with Fair honest trade 4 trade , The items I examples are not even in the market or loyalty vendor as fare as I'm aware either .

Um thats another player the bit about f2p having more benefits (All look the same to you do we lol) but we ALL get the promotional goodies yet non promotion is directed towards premium ! so the players viewpoint complaint kinda solid to that aspect I gues , Well beyond feeling of pompus snide snubbery of other players thinking they are authority of what FUN premium status should or shouldn't be Granted if they do not sub in a Video game when they do not even PLAY in said status to experience , Ha it does create an atmosphere of self entitlement both ways indeed.

I would create topic about several item glitches but felt no need it would take to long screen capturing or recording to be adceptible to this atmosphere so many issues that could be changed to bring more fun back , If your unclear of my agenda its just to understand the comunity bias divide over just a sliver of a cap when it denies even just basic of novelties within GRANTED content , Wait did bigbadron alt just say they added me to ignore ,Wonder if he knows what snub means ha.

Image how many tears would fall if 3,000 cap one day suddlenly became 30,000 .

An appropriate analogy is a cable network subscription. A new customer might get a gift card or fixed rate for a period of time but those "gifts" do not extend to existing customers. When this sort of promotion is instituted it is to encourage new customers to come on board, not to get established customers to cancel and renew.

To allow this would be a poor, even fatal business practice.