Even knowing how much easier T3 raids were this year than last, I think it is perfectly reasonable to throw a shout out to the guilds that are still out there putting in the work. Guilds that survived TBL and still have what it takes to finish out TOV in such quick fashion are certainly still deserving of the accolades. If we want the raids to be more of a challenge next year, maybe the high end raiding community needs to be the squeaky wheel this year. We saw the boo-hoo posts of the masses last year, crying that TBL was too hard, go unchallenged. The result was a very soft expansion in TOV. At any rate. Congratulations Valhallah for rounding out the top 5! Machin Shin, Inverse Logic, Ring of Valor, Scarlet Tempest, and welcome back Crimson Tempest to the top 10 fastest guilds to beat the expansion! Honorable mention to Triton, Symphony of Arms, Shadows of Doom, and Fu World Order as well. I know some of these guilds did not even attempt them until their normally scheduled raid times rolled around, but this is the chronological order that things sorted themselves out and thats all I can comment on. If anyone has beaten this but it wasn't posted to EGL by now, grats to you too!
While I would prefer a few challenging raids each year; in my opinion, having the final raid of an expansion be a doozy is a real nice compromise. The crazy guilds get something to test their mettle on and no one is locked out of seeing content. All of the major raiding guilds rarely agree on anything but their appreciation of Mearatas seemed to be universal.
Our(Township Rebellion) velks kill was 4/17 19:50 Pacific Time, that website hasn't updated our log yet for some reason.
I think ToV is a great expansion. I think the top end raiders get "enough" and do not "need" to be the squeaky wheel. Let the raiding numbers and such go up again before it starts getting crushed by the dismal promise of more Underfoot/God expansions. I am especially happy/appreciative this year that the raid crap was left out of the group game. The group game is much more doable than previous expansions, and I hope the trend continues in expansions to come.
Ugh I'm sorry about that! Can no longer edit it though so Congrats Scarlet Vengeance! If you guys ever merge with Crimson Tempest though, I want royalties for the name!
Most miraculous thing of the entire weekend was Ring of Valor and Scarlet Vengenance having the exact same time stamp on their Velk raid. Have two guilds ever finished an expansion at the exact same time before?
thats pretty incredible. would be interesting to see recorded footage of both guilds final 2 minutes on that event lol.
Updated rankings since our entry seemed to have gotten bugged and we resubmitted it. Code: Guild Progression for Seeking the Sorcerer Guild Server Defeated 1 Realm of Insanity Xegony 2020-04-16 @ 14:26:51 2 Reckless Ascension Bristlebane 2020-04-16 @ 19:17:28 3 Return of the Exiled Cazic 2020-04-16 @ 19:48:44 4 Silent Redemption Cazic 2020-04-16 @ 20:11:46 5 Valhallah Firiona 2020-04-16 @ 20:46:00 6 Machin Shin Xegony 2020-04-16 @ 20:49:14 7 Inverse Logic Luclin 2020-04-17 @ 18:12:56 8 Township Rebellion Luclin 2020-04-17 @ 19:50:30 9 Ring of Valor Bristlebane 2020-04-17 @ 20:24:07 10 Scarlet Vengeance Rathe 2020-04-17 @ 20:24:07 11 Crimson Tempest Drinal 2020-04-17 @ 21:38:53 12 Triton Povar 2020-04-18 @ 17:36:53
But #9 and #10 tied and only listed this way because of the alphabet, thus both are #9 and Crimson Tempest really is #10...or does it not work that way?
When two teams tie in sports, they share the number, in this case 9, but then the next team is 11. At least in most sports.
The rankings kind of lose their importance when 11 guilds beat it the first 24 hours. Rankings have always been and will always be ROI #1, everyone else fighting for #2 but this year is just who already knows mechanics and logs in wins essentially. Takes nothing away from every guild that won just the rankings this year are super anticlimactic.
Congrats folks but I feel similar to this: The race died a long time ago and what we have left now is nothing close. Used to be most guilds went in blind to some degree. They never got to test every raid and even if they did test something first hand the dev or devs would hold back information or split the testing between a few guilds so no one guild got everything for an expansion or even a raid in some cases. Hell stuff used to meaningfully change after beta. Now people figure them all out during beta or better yet get entire raids explained by a dev so they can test them better while they record it all. They then watch their beta videos the night before it's live and act like its comparable to 5, 10, 15 years ago. It also used to be a marathon and now its a 100 yard dash which are not even close to being equal.
Yeah, the rankings lose meaning when you wipe to Velks raid for 5+ hours and fall out of the top 10. LOL
They lost meaning no matter who ranks where when 11 guilds win in 24 hours which i dont think has ever happened before (could be wrong). If we knew the 1 thing that made Velks the most trivial raid of the three we wouldnt have wiped but alas we had to figure it out the hard way. We beat it the first attempt the next day, if we decided to stay up until we win dedication that a lot of other guilds had, may have be different but you win some and you lose some. Guilds that were ranked 10th - 20th and now in top 10 and vise vera, how the cookie crumbles.
Yes, and many of those guilds didn't wipe to Velks raid for 5 hours. I'm glad you were able to watch better guilds' stream to figure out what you were doing wrong. I hope Axxius includes a serverwide 12th on your homepage pictures like he was wont to do for the last couple of expansions. Something tells me he wont. Jesus guys, you even finished after CT. Everyone can look at your homepage and see how salty Axxius was WRT CT last expansion. Now you guys finish behind them. What a joke.
Don't think there is any need to turn this into a flame thread. Congrats winners! May we all get along a little better, we're all playing the same game together here.
I don't know what makes you guys think that guilds learning events in BETA is somehow new. Thats been going on forever. There are just more guilds involved these days. That is certainly a good thing.